Official TiVo HD thread

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by MickeS, Jul 24, 2007.

  1. HDTiVo

    HDTiVo Not so Senior Member

    Nov 27, 2002


    I don't even charge. Looks like I'm leaving money on the table.

    Spend your money on a TiVo HD.

    (And unfortunately its the same old HDTiVo anyway. :eek: )
  2. gbnyc

    gbnyc New Member

    Jun 19, 2002
    I tried again today, and the rep explained that they got a communication yesterday morning, about grandfather transfers of lifetime, code 09-07-04, specifically telling them that it is not available for the new TiVoHD. Each rep I spoke with knew exactly what I was talking about, knew the code number before I had to give it to them, and said that it is NOT available for this model. If anyone has a different experience, please post.

  3. Balzer

    Balzer Active Member

    Nov 12, 2006
    Sioux Falls, SD
    Yea.. I ordered mine last night, and I haven't received any shipping information yet. The order status just shows "In Progress". Maybe I was too late for the first batch available.
  4. toddinmd

    toddinmd New Member

    Dec 8, 2004
    i ordered my yesterday afternoon, still in progress. (ordered at 1345)
  5. sampai

    sampai New Member

    Mar 18, 2007


    I ordered mine from Best Buy's web site yesterday. The web site said it would ship within one business day. I got an e-mail from Best Buy today with a tracking number, saying:

    BTW, the Best Buy web site showed the Best Buy physical stores as having no stock.

    I can't wait to get my TiVo HD this week, and finally return my Comcast DVR. I stopped by the Comcast office in Redmond, WA, yesterday, and got two cablecards: first one for $5/month, second one for $1.79/month. The lady at the counter didn't seem the slightest bit surprised. Redmond is home to Microsoft; so there's probably no shortage of geeks like me asking for cablecards.
  6. ldc3000

    ldc3000 Member

    Jun 24, 2004
    Are people buying extended warranties? I decided to purchase one on the THD I purchased from Circuit City. $300 is right at the point where I want that extra protection.
  7. dvr4me

    dvr4me New Member

    Jul 10, 2007
    Megory, where did you originally buy the S2?

    If you bought it from Tivo, it is part of a package and you cannot transfer the subscription to another unit regardless of where you buy the new unit.

    I bought an S2 from Tivo 2 weeks ago. I called them Monday 7/23 to find out what the return process involves and whether I could just transfer my sub. The rep explained that you cannot transfer the sub from a "packaged tivo".

    The rep actually told me that it is a better deal to buy one from retail and then purchase a subscription because then you could transfer the subscription after you received the retail rebate. It didn't make a whole lot of sense to me to allow people to buy a tivo box, buy a subscription, get the rebate, then allow them to buy another box and transfer the sub to the new box. You'd think that you'd need to keep the box active for the length of the sub so then it would be free and clear... What would prevent someone from buying a $55 box after rebate and just keep switching the sub from box to box and sell the boxes on ebay?...

    Long story short, since I was in my first month I called Tivo and arranged a return for full credit. The rep really wanted me to keep the S2 but with the Tivo HD coming out I saw no reason. Once you start the return process, the sub is cancelled and you need to get the box back to Tivo within 15 days or a "non-refundable, non-returned equipment fee will be charged for the box" ($250).
  8. dvr4me

    dvr4me New Member

    Jul 10, 2007
    I might buy a warranty. One interesting thing about the Circuit City warranty was that they would troubleshoot over the phone and if they couldn't resolve the issue they would send a new one (specifically the warranty for DVR's).

    I bought mine from Best Buy however. I suspect the warranty would be around $50 but I haven't looked into it yet.

    My Best Buy order seems to have shipped as I too received the email that states "The items listed below are now packed and ready to leave our warehouse. Your credit card (or Gift Card) has been charged for the items."
  9. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

    Sep 21, 2004
    That is incorrect. You can transfer any subscription to another box. You will have to buy the box at retail and not from however. All you do is buy the box and login to to change the TSN. It takes about 2 minutes to do.
  10. dvr4me

    dvr4me New Member

    Jul 10, 2007
    Added information to [post=5351201]the TiVo HD FAQ.[/post] Thanks!
  11. dbaps

    dbaps Member

    Jul 25, 2007
    The Motorola 6412 does have an active firewire output on the back to capture shows to your computer. If this had more storage I would buy it now.
  12. dolfer

    dolfer Miles Standish Proud

    Nov 3, 2000
    I really hope this is true! I can't wait until we get official confirmation on this...
  13. bkdtv

    bkdtv New Member

    Jan 9, 2003
    DC Metro Area
    Repost from the Tivo Wild Spec thread:

    Official TivoHD Specifications (TCD652160)
    • Broadcom BCM7401 DVR CPU w/ integrated MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 decoders
    • 256MB DDR400 SDRAM (4x NANYA NT5DS32M16BS-5U)
    • 160GB Western Digital WD1600AVBS SATA hard drive
    • 2x ATI Theater 314 QAM/VSB demodulators (for tuners)
    • 2x Philips/NXT SAA7138CHL ADCs
    • 1x VIXS XCode 2115 IC w/ dedicated 32MB DDR400 SDRAM (2x NANYA NT5DS8M16FS-5T)
      • CableCard interface
      • MP@ML encoders
    • Silicon Image SiI5723 Dual SATA controller
    • Xilinx Spartan-3 XC3S200 FPGA
    • 10/100Mbps Ethernet
    • Standard Tivo remote
    • $299 MSRP

    TivoHD Advantages
    • MSRP is $500 less ($299 vs $799) thanks to newer, more integrated components
    • TivoHD has ~7% faster CPU (450 MIPS vs 420 MIPS)
    • TivoHD has twice the usable system memory (256MB vs 128MB)
    • Supports MCARDs out of the box.
    • Consumes less power.

    TivoHD Disadvantages
    • Smaller hard drive (160GB vs 250GB).
    • eSATA expansion is not yet functional Edit: The 9.2 software adds official eSATA support.
    • No THX certification.
    • No piano black enclosure with OLED display.
    • No slick, learning remote (sold separately for $50).
    • No bundled HDMI cable.
    • Drivers for new components potentially less mature / optimized.
    • Potentially slower disk I/O, which may hurt responsiveness.
      The Broadcom BCM7401 in the TivoHD has a single 1.5Gbps SATA channel that is "split" for the internal SATA and eSATA connections using the Silicon Image SiI5723. In contrast, the BCM7038 in the Series3 had a dual-channel SATA controller, so no "splitting" was required. This may negatively impact disk I/O when both internal and eSATA drives are used, and Tivo responsiveness is highly dependent on disk I/O. The SiI5723 does support several RAID modes that could potentially improve random I/O.
  14. bkdtv

    bkdtv New Member

    Jan 9, 2003
    DC Metro Area
    This is not correct.

    See FAQ #2 of the Series3 eSATA Drive Expansion: FAQ + Discussion. FAQ #2 was added at Tivo's request.

    Tivo is working to add eSATA support to the TivoHD with a future software update. According to Tivo's web site, eSATA support is coming "late 2007." But the current Kickstart 62 method to enable eSATA does not work. If you've reviewed the above specifications, it may be clear why.
  15. dolfer

    dolfer Miles Standish Proud

    Nov 3, 2000
    Thanks for the info...

    HD Newbie Question...

    Since the new Tivo will only have 20 hours of HD storage, can I split my cable so that I can still use my Series2? That way I could use S2 for analog and the Tivo HD for HD.

    Basically I don't know if a CableCard set up allows for splitting. And yes I realize that the S2 would only be able to receive analog and non-premium channels.

    Also, does Time Warner or others currently have the M-Card?
  16. Teledatageek

    Teledatageek Member

    Jun 26, 2004
    Wondering if I screwed up.....

    I have an S3 and had a non-working S2 that I hadn't canceled yet. So, yesterday I call Tivo to cancel the S2 as I thought the new HD Tivo would be few/several weeks out and it seemed dumb to keep paying on the non-working S2.

    So, now I want to buy the new HD Tivo for $299 from but I have to get a plan with it so it appears.

    Is the best bet to buy a pre-paid $299.00 plan? Then I'm presuming the existing would drop to $6.95 per month.

    Am I going about this the right way?!
  17. Maverickster

    Maverickster New Member

    Dec 30, 2004
    Alirght, I'm getting ready to buy this thing and I just need to make sure I have the subscription "system" down right.

    It's my understanding that you cannot do a lifetime transfer from either a Series2 box (which I currently own) or from one of the qualifying "grandfathered" Series1 boxes (which I would have to go buy). Correct?

    So, my only option is to sell my existing Series2 Box w/ Lifetime & 300 GB HDD on eBay, buy a new TiVoHD, and EITHER:

    1. Buy a Lifetime Gift Card with some time left on it on eBay (will these work with the TiVoHD?); or
    2. Pay for a new subscription for the new TiVoHD (probably 3-year, since they're running that at the price of a 2-year right now).


    Thanks in advance.

  18. Sandlapper

    Sandlapper New Member

    Oct 26, 2003
    Greenville, SC
    So what's the differences in the S3 and the HD?

    Smaller HDD, no LED display on the front, and non THX certification?

    Am I missing anything?
  19. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Rochester NY
    This is no longer true, MSD are now available on new subscriptions only. If you buy a per-paid plan you will not get the discount on your existing TiVo.

    Good Luck
  20. dolfer

    dolfer Miles Standish Proud

    Nov 3, 2000
    no eSATA (at least currently) and no fancy remote

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