Official Time Warner Cable Thread

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by tunnelengineer, Sep 14, 2006.

  1. ej42137

    ej42137 Well-Known Member

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    Huh. I just got through doing guided setup on three S3s, a Premiere and a Roamio. Every one of them did a pass-through of the channels being asked about. I wonder what was different about your situation.
     
  2. randywalters

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    You should be able to find your old channel lineup when you re-run Guided Setup. When my lineup changed on Oct 9th and i re-ran Guided Setup on my S3 and my Premiere. It went OK on my S3 and it loaded the new channels, but when i did my Premiere i was supposed to select "Torrance Digital Rebuild Extended Basic" but i accidentally selected the "Torrance Digital Extended Basic" (without the word Rebuild) then right-arrowed and it loaded my OLD lineup, so it was still there.

    Someone on AVS posted a good method to ensure you select the correct lineup - he said when Tivo asked what's on channel XX they're always 2-digit numbers in the 1-99 range but to ensure you find the correct lineup you'll want to see the channels above 101 as these are the ones that are being changed nation-wide. So instead of selecting one of the 2-digit channels, select "I Don't Know" and it will ask you about another 2-digit channel several more times. Keep selecting "I Don't Know" and you'll eventually be presented with several possible lineups, some of which should have the word "Rebuild" which is the new lineup that you don't want yet since your lineup hasn't changed yet.

    In my case i was presented with 10 possible lineups from various surrounding cities, but only two were for my actual city - one of which was "Digital Rebuild Extended" and the other "Digital Extended" (not Rebuild). Once i selected one of these, it instructed me to press Channel Down to scroll through the channel list and this is where i was able to compare all the 101 and higher channels in that lineup to my mailed chart and confirm that i indeed had the correct lineup. The lineup with the word "Rebuild" had my new channels, and the lineup without the word "Rebuild" was my old lineup. So both lineups were there and available.

    If you have the patience, re-run GS and keep doing the "I Don't Know" trick repeatedly until you're presented with a list of possible lineups, then look for lineup with your city but without the word "Rebuild" and that should be your old lineup. This should work for reverting back to your previous lineup since you're probably already familiar with what stations are on the various 101-700 range. You can't go by the channels in the 2-99 range because TWC says these channels are not changing on the new lineup, only the 101 and higher ranges are changing.
     
  3. cwoody222

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    What randywalters explains is exactly what I did when I got the new lineup a few months ago.

    I had to do the "I don't know" trick to be presented with the Rebuild lineup.

    Both the new and old lineup was available for a time.

    HOWEVER, what happened about a week later was they deleted the Rebuild lineup and included the new lineup details in the OLD lineup. So I had to do GS AGAIN when they did that. It sucked. But otherwise, my channels wouldn't have been correct for that week or so.

    I think they do that "overlap" because they know the listing provide (TMS) probably will put the new listing in place a day or so before or after the changes actually take place.
     
  4. Teeps

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    Yes, seems after my S3 chewed for a couple of days.
    Most of the season passes did switch to the new channels.

    I would suggest that after your area gets the lineup change.
    Run guided setup. Then after a few hours use the guide menu to manually record programs, you want, for a day or two. That should save some time....

    Oh, my XL4's hard drive took a dump on Sunday.
    That's been fun...
     
  5. rileyrd

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    Got brave today and downloaded Yosemite to my macbook air and tried out kmttg. Running kmttg v1.1e with latest tools. Curl failed as pointed out in early posts so using javadownload which works fine. However I am getting a java error for projectx:

    java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar /Users/Dale/Desktop/kmttg/kmttg_v1p0p/ProjectX/ProjectX.jar "/Users/Dale/Desktop/kmttg/kmttg_v1p0p/Revenge - Disclosure (10_05_2014).mpg" -demux -out /Users/Dale/Desktop/kmttg/kmttg_v1p0p
    Unable to find demux output log file: /Users/Dale/Desktop/kmttg/kmttg_v1p0p/Revenge - Disclosure (10_05_2014)_log.txt
    Problem parsing demux log file: /Users/Dale/Desktop/kmttg/kmttg_v1p0p/Revenge - Disclosure (10_05_2014)_log.txt
    No demux output files found
    demux failed (exit code: 1 ) - check command: java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar /Users/Dale/Desktop/kmttg/kmttg_v1p0p/ProjectX/ProjectX.jar "/Users/Dale/Desktop/kmttg/kmttg_v1p0p/Revenge - Disclosure (10_05_2014).mpg" -demux -out /Users/Dale/Desktop/kmttg/kmttg_v1p0p
    No Java runtime present, requesting install.

    It appears that Yosemite may be removing or deactivating Java versions. Its strange that download works. I do get a pop up that i need to install JRE. so I installed the latest both the 1.7 qnd 1.8 latest versions but no luck.

    Any ideas will be appreciated.
     
  6. Tivo II Jack

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    Well it has been 2 1/2 weeks now and FiOS is still not working properly and I still can't send nor receive emails They are sending a Senior Technician on Monday. If he fails, FiOS is good byios.

    Someone earlier told me to be sure I got Verizon installers and not outside contractors. Sound advice. I got in touch 3 other people in the building and all have no problems. I asked them if their installers were wearing Verizon uniforms and all said yes. The three times I have had people here, they were in regular street clothes.
     
  7. Tivo II Jack

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    While I am here, whether I stay with TW or Verizon, I will have a non-DVR box in order to access On Demand, but I will need a non-Tivo DVR in order to record from On Demand.

    Can anyone recommend a good DVR that records to an internal hard drive?
     
  8. hforman

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    What happened with me here in Orange County, CA was the morning of the switch, about 8:00 AM, the channels had indeed changed. I grabbed the new channel lineup pamphlet and ran the guided setup and by answering the yes/no questions, it picked up the REBUILD lineup. One of the questions was for a channel 72 which was NOT in the new lineup. On the Roamio Tivo (we have 3 Tivos actually), I noticed that my SO ran guided setup and wound up on the DIGITAL lineup. So, it looks like it took a couple of hours, but TW changed the regular lineup.

    Here is a suggestion that I did on the third Tivo: DON'T do Guided Setup! Just go the the channel list under Settings - Channels. While looking at your list of channels (it mentions this on the bottom of the screen), hit "Enter" on the remote and then answer the questions on the channels. Within two questions, it had the correct lineup and I did not have to do the network again. On top of that, when I do Guided Setup, I have to go back and "turn off" the channels we don't ever watch. If you just change the lineup from the channel list screen, it picked up most of that correctly so it saved a lot of extra work.
     
  9. unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

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    Never enter Guided Setup if you can possibly avoid it.

    Always look for some other solution first.
     
  10. ej42137

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    Wow. I really wish I'd seen this before TWC switched lineups in my area. I reran did guided setup for five TiVos, three of them S3s which took about five hours apiece, based on the advice of everyone else who posted. I completely forgot about being able to change the lineup from the channel list. Doh!
     
  11. Tivo II Jack

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    He came, he went, he fixed NOTHING! Sending a 'better' guy tomorrow. Not expecting much.

    Still looking for a decent DVR that will record from a cable box to a self contained hard drive.
     
  12. Dec 5, 2014 #6172 of 6277
    Teeps

    Teeps Well-Known Member

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    Anyone else discover all network (OTA) channels are suddenly (Thursday 4Dec14) MAKE THAT COPY PROTECTED (encrypted)?

    Time Warner Torrance.
     
  13. Dec 5, 2014 #6173 of 6277
    Tivo II Jack

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    More than a month later and NOTHING has changed. I came here to look at Teeps latest addition and saw that my note quoted above was the last note in this string before Teeps.

    I have still never been able to send or receive an email with FIOS but I finally realized what FIOS means: Figure It Out Sucker!

    I am now paying for both TW and FIOS and only use TW for email. It seems that not one single FIOS employee has even the slightest clue about what is causing my problem. I am going to do today what I should have done over 2 months ago, reduce my TW plan to the bare basics.

    I know you are thinking why not just shut down FIOS and stay with TW. It is a combination of my deep seated hatred for TW that has developed over the past 28 years of them having a virtual monopoly in my neighborhood and treating us all like dirt with the knowledge that they were the only game in town plus the fact that there are certain parts of FIOS I want to keep.

    Now that I have vented, please let me ask again the question that went unanswered or even acknowledged back on 10/28.

    It was about a (non-TiVo) DVR. With TW and FIOS you CANNOT record on demand channels with a TiVo because they use cable cards. Unlike TW, even with a FIOS cable box/DVR, you cannot record On Demand channels, they force you to watch every second of every commercial as if you were watching live TV.

    I was looking for a decent DVR that would, just like my TV, accept the signal from my basic FIOS cable box and record it. A few days ago I was in PC Richards looking at Samsung TV's and I asked about DVR's. They don't even sell them anymore and the salesman said it was because no one was even making them anymore because all the cable companies were "giving them away".

    Giving them away??? Actually they are SELLING them to you on an installment plan (monthly fee) with installments that NEVER END. Over time you will pay well over a thousand dollars for that DVR they 'GAVE' you.

    I am sure that somewhere I can buy a HD DVR at a reasonable price, I just haven't been able to find one.

    One more thing. Am I right in assuming that a DVR such as I want will be able to record from the FIOS box. It is my belief that the FIOS box simply emits a signal that my TV then shows as audio and video. I assume the DVR will do the same, accept the same signal and record it as the same audio and video to be played back later because the FIOS cable box does not know what device it's signal is being sent to.
     
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    Tivo II Jack

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    Let me ask another unrelated question. I am looking at a Samsung UN65H7150 TV with Smart View 2.0. The 65 in the model number is the screen size.

    Does anyone out there have that model TV in any screen size that can explain what Smart View 2.0 actually does. I had a Sony with split screen on which I could watch two live TV shows at once with sound on only one. It was the greatest for watching a TV show and a sports event or 2 sports events at once.

    When I call Samsung to ask about what their Smart View actually does, they seem reluctant to explain. If it means I can watch one show on the TV and another on my smart phone or other mobile device I am not interested. Can I watch two different HDMI inputs at the same time, because that is what I am looking for.

    Using 2 TiVo's to watch two events would be perfect.
     
  15. Dec 5, 2014 #6175 of 6277
    Teeps

    Teeps Well-Known Member

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    I have a 46H7150, bought about 3 weeks ago.
    I really don't give a flip about the smart features so have not investigated them other than by accident.

    With this set you can watch a tv program whilst surfing the internet; that's as far as I have gotten and again found it by accidentally pressing the smart screen button on the remote.
     
  16. Dec 5, 2014 #6176 of 6277
    Tivo II Jack

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    What are the odds on this? Your note brings me to my own last note sitting dormant for over 5 weeks and you just bought the very TV I am asking about.

    I understand what you say about the features, I have no idea what is in the menu of my current Sony either. I love split screen and bought the Sony assuming it had split screen just like the Sony it replaced.

    I miss split screen so much I went out and bought another TV and have one set up right above the other...Barney Rubble split screen.

    I would never use a TV to surf the net, except as a monitor for a computer. Each of the two TV's can serve as a monitor for two different computers and any time I want the Net, I do it that way

    Sorry I couldn't tell you about your question, I never even look at anything OTA.

    In general, would you recommend the Samsung?
     
  17. Dec 5, 2014 #6177 of 6277
    ej42137

    ej42137 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know about "discovering" it, but we got a letter from TWC a few weeks ago warning us of this change.
     
  18. Dec 6, 2014 #6178 of 6277
    dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    By "encrypted" do you mean CCI byte copy-once protection? (Which prevents TTG.)

    If not that, what is the impact of this encryption on ordinary use?
     
  19. Dec 6, 2014 #6179 of 6277
    Teeps

    Teeps Well-Known Member

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    My apologies; Yes, you are correct copy protected.

    Today 8 Dec 2014.
    Network broadcasts are still showing copy protection.
    Time Warner points to TiVo...
    We know where this is going...

    I filed a complaint with the FCC; will see how that goes.
     
  20. Dec 9, 2014 #6180 of 6277
    unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

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    TWC is trying to blame your TiVo for them trying to cripple your TiVo?

    For reals?

    Whoever gave you that answer obviously doesn't understand the problem.

    Unless they actually do and think you're stupid enough to fall just any old story they feel like telling.
     

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