Obscure characters in TV shows

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  1. Jul 27, 2011 #61 of 130
    markz

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    My wife and I would be right there with you. We google everything too! And the second most used website we reference a lot is IMDB (Internet Movie DataBase).

    We can't get through a night without whipping out a phone to look something up on one or the other!
     
  2. Jul 27, 2011 #62 of 130
    Cearbhaill

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    You're very excitable today :D
     
  3. Jul 27, 2011 #63 of 130
    Steveknj

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    Warren Zevon reference - Excitable Boy :D
     
  4. Jul 27, 2011 #64 of 130
    Cearbhaill

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    But the better reply would have been "I'm just an excitable boy."

    See the difference?
    The right people will get it.
     
  5. Jul 27, 2011 #65 of 130
    JYoung

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    I highlight the name, right click, and select "Search Google For".
    Doesn't seem that difficult to me.


    That's actually a bad example because you're talking about two different audiences.

    As pointed out by others, when it's a nominally Science Fiction show on what was formerly the Sci Fi channel, it's really a pretty safe assumption that the majority of your audience would know who Wesley Crusher is.

    It's not like they made a reference to "My Dinner with Andre" in a Wrestling thread.
     
  6. Jul 27, 2011 #66 of 130
    busyba

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    So for each reference we want to make in a post, we need to separately poll 10 people to find out if enough people get the reference so that we don't need to include a cite?
     
  7. Jul 27, 2011 #67 of 130
    nyny523

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    You know what, if people don't get a reference I throw out (obscure or not), that is really not my problem.

    I have been throwing out obscure references my entire life - long before the internet or google or any of this stuff.

    You get it or you don't, and you move on. I get zoomed on occasion myself - if I am interested enough, I will make the effort to do some research. If I'm not, I don't.

    It should be the referencer's "responsibility" to explain something. If you want to know, take on the responsibility and do the research yourself. It's not my job to educate anyone!

    Yeesh.
     
  8. Jul 27, 2011 #68 of 130
    ihatecable

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    Ah Zathras was... quiet one.
     
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    aindik

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    Jonathan_S

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    I haven't bothered to count but I'm pretty sure Wesley Crusher has a higher episode count (and quite possibly higher total screen time) that Captain Kirk. :D
     
  11. Jul 27, 2011 #71 of 130
    LoadStar

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    Officially, none of the movies. He filmed a cameo appearance in the wedding reception scene in "Nemesis," and was scheduled to have a much more substantial appearance in a scene with Patrick Stewart, but neither made final cut. (Actually, I think if you pause the screen in just the right point, you can still see him very briefly.)
     
  12. Jul 27, 2011 #72 of 130
    busyba

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    No, not Zathras.... you're thinking of Zathras.
     
  13. Jul 27, 2011 #73 of 130
    LoadStar

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    Who?

    Oh, got it thanks to Google. Never watched much of that show. I should go back and watch it sometime.
     
  14. Jul 27, 2011 #74 of 130
    busyba

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    Episodes, ok. Wesley has 85 episodes to Kirk's 79 according to IMDB.

    But screen time? No way. And absolutely no way if you include movies.


    btw... Kirk has 79 TOS episodes while Spock has 80. I wonder which episode Kirk wasn't in... :confused:

    EDIT: Oh, I just realized that it's probably the pilot episode.
     
  15. Jul 27, 2011 #75 of 130
    BrettStah

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    Thanks... couldn't recall but was sure he was in at least one of them. IMDB mentions him being in "Nemesis", FWIW: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0253754/fullcredits#cast
     
  16. Jul 27, 2011 #76 of 130
    LoadStar

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    I don't think he was in the official credits, but I'd have to go back and look. He ended up with no lines, and could only be seen *very* briefly sitting next to Beverly Crusher at the reception table.

    The scene he filmed that was ultimately cut:

    It's actually a good thing it was cut, IMO, because it really reverts him back to the annoying Wesley Crusher from very early seasons, and not the somewhat more mature Wesley as an ensign and cadet. It also had no point, except as a token way of bringing Wil Wheaton back into the TNG fold before the end.
     
  17. Jul 27, 2011 #77 of 130
    scandia101

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    You can't just say TNG without an explanation of what it is. :D
     
  18. Jul 27, 2011 #78 of 130
    Turtleboy

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    Cultural references lose their value if you have to explain the reference while you're making it. It makes the writing less witty, and pointless.

    It's not like making a reference to ehopper's tamales.

    These aren't "inside jokes." And it's not obscure either.

    I'm literally (meaning figuratively) baffled by this request.
     
  19. Jul 27, 2011 #79 of 130
    BeanMeScot

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    An inside reference explained is no longer an inside reference. How many times do people here mention "4 or 5 times". I can't remember the last time someone explained what that means.
     
  20. Jul 27, 2011 #80 of 130
    markz

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    That reference was just made today!
     

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