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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Steveknj, Jul 21, 2011.
Ka-pla! (yeah, unrelated reference)
lol, I've been rewatching the STTNG episodes while I sit on the computer surfing. Fun times.
Exactly. It's really not too difficult to put the show name in next to the character. I'm not talking about real pop culture people that most people know (I didn't watch the original Star Trek for instance, but I know who Spock and Kirk were, but some character from season 2 episode 1? Not a chance).
I guess you all know this is a pet peeve of mine. I hate being on the outside of some joke. You know I kill the show Community for doing the same thing. If you think it's unreasonable to ask just to reference the show, then I guess just move on.
And one of two things happen, I get information and it's interesting, or I wasted 5 minutes of my life. Putting the show title in the reference saves me those 5 minutes.
Sometimes I read these threads while multitasking.....don't always have time to look up things. But hey, I guess it's unreasonable to type in an extra 2 or 3 words.
In many cases I'd agree about an inside joke being, well, inside.. but Wesley Crusher has gone so much further that it really has gained life on it's own, especially with Wil Wheaton being such a good sport and active in show business the past few years.
I think the need for the extra information is usually a matter of context.
Both Eureka and ST:TNG are in the sci-fi genre, although Eureka tilts a little more toward fantasy... Given that, it would not be unreasonable for LoadStar, who made the Wesley Crusher reference, to assume that a fair portion of the TV audience overlapped, and was familiar with both. Since Wesley was a fixture on ST:TNG over many seasons, he is not exactly an obscure character to those ST fans.
Admittedly, not everyone who watches a particular sci-fi show is familiar with all others. I haven't caught more than an ep or two of any of the Stargate series. Or of the Babylon series. So I'd be at a loss with those character references. But were some made that I didn't understand, as is often the case, I'd either look it up or move on, knowing it likely had a sci-fi commonality.
Now, if LoadStar made a reference in the Eureka thread to a character from, say, a Bruce Lee movie, or a James Patterson book, then he'd be wise to give the extra info you crave.
To me, it's the context of the reference, however obscure.
There're a lot of Star Trek fans who wish Wesley Crushers was just "some character from season 2 episode 1". Sadly for them he was all too frequently a guest star.
He wasn't a guest star. He was a top-line actor on the show during seasons 1-4 - he was in the title credits and everything. He was a recurring guest star after that point.
So because you don't want to "waste" 5 minutes of your life, everyone else on the internet should spend an extra 1-2 to make your life easier???
People should do what ESPN did for Dennis Miller when he was on Monday Night Football.
(The comedian Dennis Miller was known for using obscure references when he was a commentator on Monday Night Football) They put together a website that explained each reference which you can see here: http://espn.go.com/abcsports/mnf/s/annotatedmiller/archive.html
Or people could just look the stuff up if understanding the reference is that important to them.
Apparently making a polite and simple request for a little "common courtesy" is so objectionable to some people here that it is UNcommon to them. Perpetuating the stereotype of the "arrogant, ugly American".
Moving on ...
Just because some people may disagree means we're "arrogant ugly Americans"? Whatever. Get off your high horse.
Sheesh... part of the fun of an inside joke, is that it is inside! People in the know get it, others don't. No biggie.
For example, on Franklin and Bash last ep (if I may take this topic just a little afield) the grey bearded stern judge was not looking favorably on a defendent who was caught with a lot of marijuana. What made this scene an inside joke was the judge was played by Tommy Chong. But nothing was hinted or referenced in the episode.
Inside jokes, and the reluctance to have to explain them to the unfamiliar, is no more a characteristic of the "ugly American" than is an overly meek, too politcically correct attitude a characteristic of a Canadian... eh?
OT, but you might appreciate the hyperwords Firefox extension. It pulls up a context menu anytime you highlight something and gives you options on what you want to do with it. For reference you can pull up the Wikipedia article on something in a popup instead of opening it in another tab. Also lets you do cool things like convert numbers or translate text without opening any web page at all...anyway, no affiliation with them or anything, but think it is a pretty cool extension.
I'm going through TNG right now on Netflix Streaming. I'm on this episode right now. Season 5 episode 2 if anyone wants to know.
hmmmm...u must type slow if it takes 1-2 minutes to type about 15 characters
And Dennis Miller lasted about 1 season on MNF precisely for that reason. Most of what he said went over the head of the majority of his audience.