Noob: Transferring recordings and upgrading HDD

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by peggypwr1, Apr 2, 2020.

  1. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay TCF Club

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    As I have quoted before, its not the desktop software, but TE4 (Hydra/v21) which removed that function, so neither Tivo Desktop or PyTivo can transfer back to that Tivo. It will still work with TE3 (v20).
     
  2. gabrielstern

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    thank you for the information about the bolts will it to do that with the first generation bolts, I know with the romios it does not, the goal for me is to find a first generation used 6 tuner bolt install an 8tb red drive reformat it using the mfsr reformator run that on the classic platform just to transfer all the recordings directly from the romio to that bolt then if their is a way to using the pyi software try and get the 3 copy protected programs transfered into the pyi software then transfer into that bolt before upgrading the bolts system to the hydra system then install an 8tb in the romio reformat it but leave on the classic platform then take the 6tb drive currently in romio reformat it in windows and use to store recordings for tivo desktop and the pyi software.
     
  3. ThAbtO

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    No copy protected show can be transferred. There is no programs that will even allows because the Tivo itself bars the transfer. Copy-protected means exactly that, so it cannot be transferred to another Tivo or computer.

    I noted about drives for the Bolts, and it applies to ALL Bolts. There are no first generation Bolts. Its just a Series, 6th in fact.

    The only way to get Bolts to >3TB is to use 3.5 inch drives, which does not fit inside the Bolt case and you need to connect using an external case, powered somehow, but directly connect the drive SATA to the Bolt MB and not externally.

    BTW, its PyTivo not Pyi. Py = a Python system..
     
  4. gabrielstern

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    can you give me more information about the kmttg and how it works for downloads and other functions if I seem like I am rambling is because i have been frustrated with tivo but I am thankful for the pyi desktop software as at least it works on one of my dvrs perfectly, but again as of janaury 2020 tivo desktop no longer works at all on any tivos running the hydra system, and on any tivos running the classic platform will only allow you to transfer to a computer not back, but hopefully i can from my premier and romio eventaully to start with I can utilize tivo desktop just to get the recordings into the computer while retaining the original program information and dates of the recordings then utilize the pyi software to transfer back recordings while retaining the original information I mentioned above, if possible
     
  5. gabrielstern

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    I know I did that already with my one bolt I utilized a sata extender rant it through the back of the bolt without any cutting and put 3.5 drive in a special case then affixed it to the top of the bolt using velcro stickers and that drive still works. since wd does not make green drives anymore I use wd red drives now because it has intelipower in it like the green drives had, but thankyou for the information about calling it py instead of pyi I will be more mindful next time.
     
  6. ThAbtO

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    KMTTG uses Java and not the latest version, it runs on v8 and it can do tons of things, download, decrypt (remove the Media Key layer, and it will be either .MPG or .TS), passes can be saved and restore (even to another Tivo), convert shows to other formats (MPEG4, for 1). You can also have it do batches for download and it will do it in sequence since Tivo only allows 1 transfer (either direction) at a time. Many other features include remote control.
     
  7. gabrielstern

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    I can post a picture if you like i was able to get the supplies I needed from a place called microcenter in addition to the hard drive for around 15 dollars.
     
  8. ThAbtO

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    There has been issues with some WD Red drives, avoid the models ending with EFAX (PMR) and use EFRX (CMR). WD green needs Idle timer disabled and PUIS disabled.

    The Roamio in my sig use WD40EFRX.
     
  9. gabrielstern

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    where can I download kmttg
     
  10. ThAbtO

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    With Bolts, even if you copied the drive to a new drive with MFSTools 3.x, it will erase that drive. This happens because there is a 'Catalog' of shows and its drive specific (located somewhere in its internal flash memory.)
     
  11. gabrielstern

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    that is exactly what i use the ones with efrx I have one in my premier right now as for the case that holds my 3.5 drive on top of my bolt it is either a vinyl or leather hard drive enclosure case but looks like leather the drive is in that enclosure affixed to the top of my bolt using velcro tabs slightly towards the left I also purchased a sata extender for both the power and the sata cable itself ran it under the cover in a particuler way but that was in 2017 so I do not exactly remember exactly whether i had to buy a sata cable and then some kind of adapter and then another adapter to extend the power supply also or if it was just one piece. but it worked thats what counts. and the original 500 gig wd black notebook drive is still in the bolt but unplugged.
     
  12. gabrielstern

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    actaully i think the reds say eurx but I have had no issues with the reds that are the eurx
     
  13. ThAbtO

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    EURX is a Green AV drive. No longer made, sold overpriced, much louder then the Red.

    I have a Green in the Series 3 and at times I can hear it but not from the Red.

    On Amazon, you can still get the EFRX, but they list the EFAX as a newer model.
     

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