Noob: Transferring recordings and upgrading HDD

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  1. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay TCF Club

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    .Tivo is an encrypted layered file the Tivo encodes with the Media Access Key.

    Decrypted, its an ordinary video file. .TS stands for Transport stream which can be a h.264 or MPEG2 video file.
     
  2. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Yes it does.

    Saving to .tivo will retain the header which has all metadata
     
  3. peggypwr1

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    I took the .mp4 programs and encoded them to .ts, BUT , when I try to transfer from PC to TIVO, the same thing happens, the blue dots don't appear. I have no idea if its working. WIth the mpg. file I did, I can tell if it working or not. weird.
     
  4. peggypwr1

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    Just re-name the file ".tivo" ??
     
  5. ThAbtO

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    If you see the blue light in front, its doing a transfer.

    Look in the ToDo list, if you see them there but not transferring, you have them waiting to transfer. Tivo can only transfer 1 at a time and if there is none transferring at the time, then its "stuck" at "busy transferring" when there is none. You would need to reboot the Tivo to clear this "ghosted" transfer.
     
  6. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    No. There is literally a TiVo output profile in VideoReDo. In every version that's ever existed. Trust me it's there.
     
  7. Dan203

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    The .tivo output profile only works if the input file is also .tivo. If your source is a .mp4 just save back to an .mp4. pyTivo can handle almost any format
     
  8. peggypwr1

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    This a screen shot of the encoding menu, I'm so sorry, but I don;t see an option to save in TIVO format.

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  9. peggypwr1

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    Ok, I found the tivo option in the "profile option" but because it came PyTIVO had it come in as a .TS, after I edited it, it won;t let save in TIVO because it never came in as a TIVO.

    So, has can I get away with using a .ts format, I'm trying to avoid the TIVO having to transcode the file back. I just want it to transfer back .
     
  10. Dan203

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    You need to disable the decrypt option in pyTivo
     
  11. peggypwr1

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    Dan, if I disable the decrypt option, can I still use VideoRedo to edit out the commercials and other parts I don't need?
     
  12. Dan203

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    Yes. If you checked the option in pyTivo Desktop to install the DirectShow filter or have TiVo Desktop installed. VideoReDo uses that DirectShow filter for decrypting.
     
  13. peggypwr1

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    ok, I have to download Tivo Desktop.

    Ok, I downloaded Tivo Desktop and I can edit using VideoRedo.

    So, to confirm,

    the only way I can have TIVO to NOT transcode the edited shows I'm sending back to the DVR is to save as in a .tivo format (and set the codec as mpeg 2 or h264/avc)?

    If I did it in .ts format (mpeg 2 codec) ; would still TIVO have to transcode?
     
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  14. peggypwr1

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    UPDATE:

    Hello all, thank you for your patience with me. Greatly appreciate it. This has been a great learning experience.


    I've successfully transferred over a couple of shows now in the native tivo format.

    My question involves the FX network:

    I had no issue at all downloading "The Greatest Showman". I disabled the decrypt option in pyTivo and enabled the QS fix and edited out the commercials.

    I re-saved in the native Tivo format like I did to the to others.

    But, when I went into my Tivo to transfer it over, it said "copyright holder prohibits transfer"??

    Has anyone had this issue with FX network?

    It let me download the show to my PC??

    Any workaround on this?
     
  15. Mario Monti

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    Have the same issue with FX and not being able to transfer.
     
  16. HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    Downloading from the TiVo or uploading from the PC to the TiVo? Downloading, FX has been copy protected with some cable vendors (FIOS I believe with other Fox channels).

    Scott
     
  17. Mario Monti

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    Yup downloading.
    Just need to replace the drive.
    Lost all my recordings last time around, trying to avoid again.
    Not the end of the world, but you are correct, FiOS!
     
  18. gabrielstern

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    i have downloaded the pyi desktop and the good news on my tivo premier I now have the ability to transfer back recordings to that device I still can not transfer back to my romio or bolt which i upgraded to hydra I plan on downgrading my romio back to the classic version, if i can without losing any recorded shows, so i can hopefully retire my premier soon, as i only brought it out of retirement so i could back up recordings and use it to still be able to watch the recordings I originally recorded on that dvr but unfortunately tivo desktop plus stopped working with the ability to even transfer recordings back, so the pyi desktop solved part of the problem but the issue I am having is not all the recordings on my bolt are showing up and the ones on my romio show the wrong dates, and some are listing as 2 recordings when they are actaully a single recording and a couple are not showing up in pyi desktop from the romio as well is thier a fix in the works for that,, and also once i put a big seperate hard drive in my computer I will need to change where anything I download is stored,my other question is once i get my old computers hard drive recovered will the pyi software pick up the tivo desktop recordings that were originally transfered to tivo desktop plus and will i be able to transfer those shows back to any dvr running the classic platform even if the recordings from tivo desktop, were stored on a few different hard drives, otherwize I am extremely greatful to the developer of this software for fixing some of the issues which since rovi aquired tivo screwed up and took out with tivo desktop and the hydra system, which has a great layout but they should have made sure they retained all the features real true tivo users loved about the classic platform and even on the classic platform tivo desktop can no longer transfer recordings back, otherwize i would have jumped at getting a brand new edge but now I will look for a first generation bolt 6 tuner used on amazon that runs the classic platform and hook up an 8tb drive and then upgrade that but only if I can successfully get tivo to downgrade my romios software back to the classic platform.
     
  19. ThAbtO

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    The reason Tivo Desktop stopped working is because their security certificates expired and since Tivo stopped supporting it, so goes the certificates. There is a fix some where else in this forum. Hydra (v21, TE4) had this feature disabled/removed. You can still download from a TE4, but not the other way. Tivo-to-Tivo on TE4 involves online.tivo.com to initiate the transfer.

    PyTivo /Desktop is a better replacement for Tivo Desktop. I recommend KMTTG for downloads and pass backup/restore.

    Yes, reverting from TE4 to TE3 will delete everything and start anew. So, backup the shows and passes. If you have a cable card, it would need to be re-paired.

    Another thing about Bolts is upgrading the drive, and when you put the previous drive back in, contents will be erased. The same will happen if you replace with the upgraded drive the second time.
     
  20. gabrielstern

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    thank you for that information I think I have come up with a solution regarding the romio, as for tivo desktop athe transfering recordings back no longer works even with the classic platform, and I just downloaded tivo desktop to my new custom built desktop and the only device i can even transfer my recordings into the computer now is from the premier but the pyi software is reading the recordings from my other tivos although not perfectly. I will be even happier if the devoloper of the pyi software can come up with an update to allow to allow the transfer back to a dvr running the hydra system, since tivo cant figure out themselves how to come up with a new tivo desktop that will work with the hydra system properly.
     

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