Noisy Roamio OTA Fan is too noisy

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  1. Dec 3, 2018 #1 of 21
    tileman99

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    Hey im a fairly new TIVO cable cutter and I have noticed the TIVO Roamio OTA has some issues. One is the internal cool air fan being very noisy typically a few months after you first start to use it.
    Many suggest its from a lack of bearing lubrication. So as I can see on youtube there are several videos how to replace the fan and I was wondering how many replaced the fan and what your results are like. Can you recommend a current fan available to purchase? If you lubed up the bearings what was the procedure and how did it work out longterm?

    Does anyone mod their unit?
     
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    tileman99

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    Yeah I saw the weaknees fans before. Like many of the posters I don't like paying such a premium for a $5 dollar fan. Basically im looking for a fan that has good bearing lubrication. I plan to use old computer screw spacers made from cardboard to insulate the fan from the bracket as I believe some of the noise is being amplified via the aluminum frame. I think im going to lube up the bearings before I replace the entire fan.
    There are some very interesting fan placement mods but given the Roamio OTA's design being slightly curved its hard to mount any fans to the back of the unit where it should be to exhaust the hot air out.
     
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    JoeKustra

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    The fan from Amazon (Fan Van) comes with silicon mounting adapters. The object of a Roamio cooling is to cool the ASIC. It will be very cool if you remove the cover and have a fan blow room air toward it.

    https://www.amazon.com/Fan-Van-Repl...8492&sr=8-8&keywords=computer+cooling+fan+van
     
  5. Dec 3, 2018 #5 of 21
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    Mine was noisy. I removed the fan, reinstalled it, sprayed it with lubricant, and it was still a noisy for the next 24 hours. Then it went quiet and has been that way for well over a year. I can't explain it.
     
  6. Dec 4, 2018 #6 of 21
    tileman99

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    Well I took the fan out and lubricated it, first try being conservative only two drops each side worked for 1 hour. I figured before I make the commitment to buying a new fan I would give the bearings more oil ALOT more oil. Gave it two seconds each side of steady oil. Thought about it and how centrifugal force works to spread the oil outwords possibly onto surrounding circuit boards then I just did it. Installed the fan, whoa what a difference its so quite that I cannot even hear if its on with the case off. The hard drive makes more noise. The oil has not left the fan those bearings must have been so dry they absorbed so much oil they are not releasing it. Im going to run the TiVo for a couple of days to watch for oil leakage. I measured the heat of the fan motor during is bearing screeching and it was 150F after oil applied it measured 72F. I also stuck a temperature probe on the heat sink for the CPU and it only measured 100F granted this was with case top off but im wondering how hot the cpu gets? Does it need the fan which is basically doing little to nothing.

    Barnstormer bearings are like that once the oil or lube works its way in they become happy. Its the same thing with the TiVo fan I know from past experience that if I left the fan un lubed for about 1 week the bearings would have gone quite or at least tolerable until I shut the power off then its screeching again.

    I used light weight oil back in the day we called it sewing machine oil because its ultra thin. I would not recommend using wd-40 not on bearings anyway.
     
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  7. Dec 5, 2018 #7 of 21
    johnfasc

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    I just experienced the same issue with the fan. If I were you I would definitely buy the same fan that TiVo used previously, a JMC fan. (To have on hand) I took it out of my 3 plus year old TiVo and it's working like a charm still. And just leave out the bottom two screws so it will be easier to remove the next time.
     
  8. Dec 6, 2018 #8 of 21
    tileman99

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    Well that's the trick finding fans that work. Even a good supplier might have a bad day or well try to save a few bucks after making great fans. Its really hard to know who is the best. But until the fan stops rotating because the motor windings are shot im going to lube the bearings before I replace the fan. For all fans in every device. I think the future will see a lot more cost cutting everywhere and more issues with small ten cent items. The way the world is turning.
     
  9. opsman

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    Roamio OTA purchased in September 2018 is now noisy after only a few months, so yeah TIVO has a bad lot of fans-at least on these units. Ordered new fan from Fan Van and may try oiling the original.
     
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    The new Roamio OTA I bought on BF 2017 lasted 6 weeks. The replacement from Fan Van is still silent. I have a basic Roamio from 2013 that is still silent.
     
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    Did you use the rubber "posts" that fan van provided or screw directly to the frame?
     
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    I used only the top two screws. I have replaced the fan on two basic/OTA Roamio units. It's a long story, but the tiny internal fans don't really do much for my cooling. This 3TB Roamio has a MBT of 32C in a 70F room:
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    Without the external fan it is 42C. All units have 1/2" feet also. This particular unit has a new fan that I installed just because I had the unit open to change the hard drive.

    More information: Where to get roamio basic or OTA cooling fan replacement
     
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    Thanks, i had seen that most are using just the top 2 screws and I will likely do the same.

    I checked internal temp in the system area a few nights ago and its still at 31 with the noisy fan.
     
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    It may be noisy because it is running at full speed. When first powered up there may be a few seconds of high speed operation. Then it should get quiet. The usual temperature for a basic/OTA Roamio with a 500GB or 1TB fan is 37C to 40C in an average 74F room. Ambient temperature has a significant effect. If you get bored, place a thermometer next (left side) of the unit. Heat rises. I have one unit 18" from the floor and one 6' from the floor. That matters also.

    I suggest you apply power to the unit while the case is still off after replacing the fan. It could be the motherboard sensor. No harm will happen if you apply power for a few seconds as long as all internal connections are made first.

    Also see: TiVo Holiday Trade-In, Trade-Up Sale: trade in your Roamio OTA/VOX (plus $299.98) for a Bolt OTA
     
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    Just got home. Temp to left of TIVO is 61 (heat down all day). MBT temp is 30.

    Unplugged and restarted box. Heard the fan go to high speed then slowed down. Noise is likely (and hopefully) the fan itself. I'll take it apart this weekend.
     
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    My post on how to change the fan. It comes with no warranty.

    Where to get roamio basic or OTA cooling fan replacement
     
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    Quick update. I powered everything down back on Jan 13 to replace the fan. As it was 30 minutes before NFL divisional gametime I decided not to try anything. I know is an easy replace but didnt want to maybe mess something up just before the games were to start.

    Odd thing is after being shut down for maybe 10 minutes, the fan has been quiet ever since.

    Leaving it alone for now but I have a replacement on hand for when the noise comes back.
     
  18. opsman

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    Fan noise came back as expected. Replaced with new, all quiet now :)
     
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    I found this suggestion in another site which worked for me. Instead of installing a new fan you can purchase a USB fan that plugs into the TIVO and you place the TIVO on top of the fan. It quieted my fan but wasn't completely silent until about a week later and now it has been silent the last two months. Here's the link for the fan for about $14 at Amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MWH4FL4/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
     
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    How low did you get the MBT?
     

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