No need for MyDVD, Nero works fine.

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by DZRhino, Jan 27, 2005.

  1. Jan 30, 2005 #41 of 633
    BillShannon

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    So the Ligos codecs made everything else work for you?
    I guess it's time to spend $15 and find out for myself.
    I'd love to have a definitive answer from (e.g.)
    the Nero people about what should work and
    what shouldn't.

    Any idea what's different about the one .tivo file
    that doesn't work?
     
  2. Jan 30, 2005 #42 of 633
    BillShannon

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    For me, it doesn't matter when it was recorded. Neither new nor old
    recordings work. But then I haven't bought any new codecs yet. :(

    Wouldn't it be nice if the codecs that came with Nero would work?
     
  3. Jan 30, 2005 #43 of 633
    gadgetLarry

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    I had purchased Nero, and tried many combinations of CODECs and could not make a DVD. It would get as far as preparing to write and it would fail with a non-descript error message.

    I purchased the Sonic Deluxe package and was able to create a DVD with many programs, with the commercials stripped, chapters, animated icons, etc. and it worked without any problems. Maybe the Nero problem was an incompatible CODEC, but I could never get it to work.
     
  4. Jan 30, 2005 #44 of 633
    Thaed

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    tfratzke

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    I know i said before that it worked fine for me, but i have since tried to record some other programs, and now none of those work with NVE3. I even already had the Ligos codecs. I don't get what going on! Frustrating!
     
  6. Jan 30, 2005 #46 of 633
    mike_flood

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    I used Nero and it works great.

    Using a Pentium 4 with Win XP home. Burning to a HP300N DVD drive.
    Process is not fast but quality is great. Using the Nero Codec I got not dropped frames or audio stutter as I had with other software.

    The MyDVD stuff works for me but if I can save $50 I will.
     
  7. Jan 30, 2005 #47 of 633
    Thaed

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    I cannot convert to mpeg using Nero, so I can't get files that I can convert to divx for my Archos. I'm sure someone will write something at some point to do this. I suppose I could burn to dvd and then convert the dvd to mpg if I were desperate enough. :)
     
  8. Jan 31, 2005 #48 of 633
    Windohpain

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    Hi-I've been following this thread for several days and My scenario may not specifically match all of yours but there are some similarities so I thought I'd toss my solution into the hopper for your consideration.
    I have WinXP SP2 and use WMP9 this is a fairly fresh (XP) load so I didn't have a DVD player (Intervideo/Cyberlink) loaded yet when I got the 7.1 notice. But I was anxious to try TTG so I set off and DLed the Sonic trial (but didn't install) and copied a movie from my tivo I'd been wanting to archive for quite some time. Now I'm a Nero fan and not sure I wanted to use Sonic so I poked around until I found this thread.
    I started the point that Default WMP9 would play .tivo with good vid and sound but Nero apps garbled the crap outta the Vid and sound, also no FF or Rev.
    I was intrigued when several people reported success using the Ligos Indeo XP Video codec but I didn't want to pay $15, being cheep and having the whole of the Internet at my fingertips I felt sure there was a free way...and there was.
    The "Cole2k.Media.-.Codec.Pack.V5.52.Advanced.exe" contains the Ligos Indeo XP Video 5.2 codec-among many others, (Google cole2k)-those that reported using it said that they used the standard pack but I got the Advanced pack because...it was right there.
    Now the other thing I found was that any .tivo files I transferred prior to loading Cole2k suffered the particular anomalies of the installed codecs, i.e. I'll have to re-transfer all .tivo files by TTG under the proper codec.
    Lets all resist the urge to start a rant about transfer times.
    The good news is I can now FF and Reverse with the slider bar in WMP9 and I successfully edited and saved an episode of the Simpsons in NeroVision Express 3.

    Hope this is a help to some of you

    Happy Trails
     
  9. Jan 31, 2005 #49 of 633
    Windohpain

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    Oh, and if anyone is curious here's my list of

    Video Codecs
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    Cinepak Codec by Radius : 1.10.0.11
    Intel 4|2|0 Video V2.50 : 5.1.2600.2180
    Intel Indeo(R) Video R3.2
    Intel IYUV codec : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
    Microsoft RLE : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
    Microsoft Video 1 : 5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)
    Microsoft YUV : 5.3.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
    Microsoft YUV : 5.3.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
    Intel Indeo® Video Raw R1.2
    Microsoft YUV : 5.3.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
    Microsoft H.263 Video Codec : 5.1.2600.2180
    Microsoft H.261 Video Codec : 5.1.2600.2180
    DivX® 5.2.1 Codec : 5.2.1.1338
    Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V1 : 4.1.00.3920
    Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V2 : 4.1.00.3920
    Ligos Indeo® XP Video 5.2 : 5.2.15.58
    DivX Pro 5.0.5 Codec : 5.0.5.830
    DivX ;-) MPEG-4 Low-Motion : 4.divx.3920
    DivX ;-) MPEG-4 Fast-Motion : 4.DivX.3917
    XviD MPEG-4 Codec : n/a
    3ivx D4 4.5.1 Video Codec : 4, 5, 1, 30
    ffdshow Video Codec : 1, 0, 0, 1
    Microsoft Windows Media Video 9 : 9.0.1.0369
    Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V3 : 4.1.00.3920
    VP60® Simple Profile : 6,2,0,10
    VP61® Advanced Profile : 6,2,0,10
    VP62® Heightened Sharpness Profile : 6,2,0,10
    Huffyuv v2.2.0 : 2.2.0
     
  10. Jan 31, 2005 #50 of 633
    CashTiVo

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    Here is my first codec listing:
    Video Codecs
    ------------
    Cinepak Codec by Radius : 1.10.0.11
    Intel 4|2|0 Video V2.50 : 5.1.2600.2180
    Intel Indeo(R) Video R3.2
    Intel Indeo(R) Video R3.2
    Intel IYUV codec : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
    Microsoft RLE : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
    Microsoft Video 1 : 5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)
    Microsoft YUV : 5.3.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
    Microsoft YUV : 5.3.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
    Toshiba YUV Codec : 5.1.2600.0 (XPClient.010817-1148)
    Microsoft YUV : 5.3.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
    Microsoft H.263 Video Codec : 5.1.2600.2180
    Microsoft H.261 Video Codec : 5.1.2600.2180
    DivX® 5.2.1 Codec : 5.2.1.1338
    AVI Wrapper Video Client Codec : 1, 4, 0, 0
    Microsoft Windows Media Video 9 : 9.0.1.0369

    Here is my listing after I added the codecs:
    Video Codecs
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    Cinepak Codec by Radius : 1.10.0.11
    Intel 4|2|0 Video V2.50 : 5.1.2600.2180
    Ligos Indeo® Video 3.2 : 3.24.15.04
    Ligos Indeo® Video 3.2 : 3.24.15.04
    Intel IYUV codec : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
    Microsoft RLE : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
    Microsoft Video 1 : 5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)
    Microsoft YUV : 5.3.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
    Microsoft YUV : 5.3.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
    Ligos Indeo® Video Raw R1.2
    Microsoft YUV : 5.3.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
    Microsoft H.263 Video Codec : 5.1.2600.2180
    Microsoft H.261 Video Codec : 5.1.2600.2180
    DivX® 5.2.1 Codec : 5.2.1.1338
    AVI Wrapper Video Client Codec : 1, 4, 0, 0
    Microsoft Windows Media Video 9 : 9.0.1.0369
    Ligos Indeo® XP Video 5.2 : 5.2.15.58
    Ligos Indeo® Video 4.5 : 4.51.16.03

    Now keep in mind that this fixed part of my problem, not all of them.
     
  11. Jan 31, 2005 #51 of 633
    CashTiVo

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    Now you brought up something I hadn't thought about. I thought TTG was just an overinflated FTP program, I never thought that TTG would apply filters during the transfer!
     
  12. Jan 31, 2005 #52 of 633
    toots

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    Interesting.

    After installing the Ligo codecs, I tool your advice and re-downloaded the "bad" program. Now it works.

    Or, appears to - I mean, I haven't actually tried burning it yet, but it looks good in the preview pane.
     
  13. Jan 31, 2005 #53 of 633
    netposer

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    I'm amazed this thread hasn't been deleted yet.
     
  14. Jan 31, 2005 #54 of 633
    toots

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    I don't think we're talking about any off-limit topics. We're talking about burning DVDs, complete with having to type the password to open the .tivo file.

    In any case, after burning a few coasters with that bad show, now, I try playing the first few seconds in the little preview window in NeroVision. If it doesn't play ok, then I go no farther. Otherwise, I can tell it to go ahead and master/burn. I only had enough time to test the preview window before leaving for work this morning. Burning the DVD will happen after work.

    Is that ok?
     
  15. Jan 31, 2005 #55 of 633
    john123

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    Hmm, this still doesn't explain everything. As I explained in another thread (thanks for your answer there Windohpain), I had one dvd burned sucessfully (apart from audio drifting out of sync by the end), but other .tivo files had the corruption.

    Some background :

    - All (but one that I just did) of my .tivo files were transferred before I loaded the cole2k codec pack,
    - About 30% of them load OK into NVE
    - All of the play OK in WMP
    - All of them load OK in Sonic MyDVD (though calling anything in MyDVD OK is stretching things...)
    - There is no correlation between when the video was recorded (i.e. before or after I got 7.1) and its success
    - A program I just transferred (first since installing the codec pack) just brought up the analysing window, and loaded properly (two previous copies had failed). I'd try transferring them all again, except for the fact most are no longer on my TiVo - I thought it safe to delete them once they were on my PC, and played ok...

    Some files bring up an 'Analysing Video' popup that takes a min or so to go through the video, not all do. I suspect the ones that don't have already done this, and the analysis results have been cached.

    I found what appears to be the cache directory (c:\documents and settings\<user>\application data\ahead\nerovision\NVFACache) - clearing this out does cause the analysis to happen again, but this doesn't solve the problem.

    I had a look at the log files for a successful file, and a failure (the NeroVisionLog.txt file a directory above the cache dir).

    At first they start out the same, calling the same three filters in sequence twice (TiVo DirectShow Source, Nero Splitter, Nero Video Decoder), but then the bad one goes on to use a different filter (GCAsyncSrc - no hits for that in google!) instead of the TiVo DirectShow one, which I guess implies that it can't find the video sync info (?) which sort of explains the mess I see when trying to preview it.

    That sound reasonable?
     
  16. Jan 31, 2005 #56 of 633
    netposer

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    I agree with you but doesn't matter on this board. I've seen dozens of topics about Nero get locked then deleted.

    By encoding using Nero you are circumventing the DRM according to the moderators.

    So you better save this thread to your local disk if you want to keep it.
     
  17. Jan 31, 2005 #57 of 633
    toots

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    But there was that other thread where TiVoSomebody gave tacit approval to using NVE or its ilk, as long as we're just talking about burning DVDs, and not otherwise just transcoding to circumvent DRM.
     
  18. Jan 31, 2005 #58 of 633
    netposer

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    That's what I said over a week ago. Starting on Jan. 3 I saw dozens of threads about burning DVD's before Sonic released 6.1 and they all got locked/deleted about a week later.

    They even deleted a link to an msnbc.com article about TTG because the writer said he used something other than Sonic to re-encode his TiVo recordings.
     
  19. Jan 31, 2005 #59 of 633
    CashTiVo

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    I find it funny that there is a thread within this thread discussing why this thread is allowed to go on. :)
     
  20. Jan 31, 2005 #60 of 633
    john123

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    Gah, now you're starting a thread within the thread within the thread - where will this end? Stack overflow?
     

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