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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by jakryk, Nov 12, 2019.
Can I get pre-show ads too? Cost extra?
I got one today. It's not perfect, but it's got potential. We'll see where they go with it.
Nice... Let us know what you think.
From what I've read, Tivo did not integrate the Local channels portion of Sling Tv into their interface for this device. CEO Dave Shull stated that this device is targeting cord cutters. I think most cord cutters want the local channels plus some streaming alternatives. Many customers will still need an OTA DVR and the content will not be included in the Tivo interface of this device. If a customer uses the air tv device along with sling tv to get the local channels, they would have to toggle between the sling tv app and the tivo app to find all of their shows.
Likely because TiVo sells an OTA DVR and it competes directly with that product is my guess, since it isn't a technical reason...
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Dave Shull stated:
It’s vitally important that TiVo “get over” its history as a DVR company, he said, noting, “We’re only talking about streaming now.”
I'm not sure why Dave Shull partnered with Sling when the OTA portion of their service is a physical DVR.
This new device is incomplete for the typical cord cutter and has to be augmented with an additional service that is not integrated into the Tivo interface.
Maybe that's the only partner they could get so far. Also obviously they could plug this OTA-gap at a later date.
1) Dave Shull comes from Dish/Sling
2) This device is very similar to an existing Sling product.
Shull is also not the CEO any more after the latest merger with Xperia is completed.
The future CEO had no impact on how this device came to be.
probably not. But given Shull came on board last year and will be probably be out the door this year, he doesn't seem very married to whatever success Tivo will or will not have. Who knows if he even got this ball rolling or not.
I mean Tivo already had an Android TV device for MSOs. I feel like that predated him. I could be wrong.
I am watching dolby promo videos for Dolby atmos and I zmgetting pcm from my receiver
In my opinion the lack of OTA integration into the Tivo interface for this device is a significant gap. The top ten shows in the Neilson ratings are all on network tv that broadcast on the OTA channels.
My guess is Dish is paying TiVo to add the Sling player to their streaming device. No different than Netflix doing the same. Sling started out big.. and like many others, raised prices soon after deployment and customers started dropped them too.
Its interesting that TiVo's SLING will NOT be offering local channels as all the others probably do. As SLING seems to be their main offering... Just another coffin nail for their streaming device.
Considering it's $20 cheaper than a Chromecast Ultra and can do more, what's the downside to it? Granted, I'm a bit salty, peeved, annoyed and so on that they can't make a Tivo Stream Mini 4k (for a lack of a better device name), but if I had to get a 4k streaming device right now, why wouldn't I drop $50 for the Stream 4k? I'm a big Chromecast fan in general, and if I have company or a date that wants control of the remote, they can have it.
I'm picking one up strictly to retire my og Chromecast. The only thing I'd love to see added is a microSD slot or USB. But if you're in the market for a new streaming device, this wouldn't be topping your list why?
And seeing as it uses USB-C, I'm guessing we might be able to add a hub and external drive to it as well. That would be slick. I'd also wonder if we could use a hub with ethernet and make the connection wired.
Seems like a great reason to make a Mini with Stream 4k capabilities. Which is probably the device everyone here wants. They'd probably toss their Tivo DVR in the basement and throw the Mini Stream 4k on all their displays and call it a day. I know I would. Provided they came with true "learning" remotes. I truly despise the F'd up array of remotes they have and their various and incompatible technologies for connecting.
Actually that's exactly what I want. I want a Mini that runs Android TV and has full access to the Play store. I thought we'd get essentially a version of that, just without the TiVo playback part, with the Stream 4K, but that's not how it turned out.
Well, if they follow through on the streaming app...
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I don't have high hopes for that. I tried using the old Fire TV app for a while and it was pretty terrible. Also used the mobile app on my iPad as as bedtime TV for years. It was better, but still not great. The whole transcoding process it uses for these devices just isn't that reliable.
Well my confidence isn't high. My bigger issue is ever since the channels all updated, and I've done all sorts of rescan and resets, my channel quality is crap on a few channels. And I think it's the tivo tuners and my TV seems to do the same channels just fine.
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