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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by jakryk, Nov 12, 2019.
Will TiVo be getting the Disney+ App or are they locked into NetFlix/Hulu?
Yea, I too was hoping TiVo would have pulled off getting the app.
The standard status line that it’s not TiVo’s fault is likely BS.
Would not surprise me if TiVo tried to get some sort of payout from Disney for allowing access to its users.
Disney likely has programmers set aside just for porting the app to multiple platforms, it literally wouldn’t cost them more than their existing payroll give us the app.
It's not BS, Disney has to decide if they feel it's worth producing a Tivo specific app and it makes perfect sense for them not to for such a small niche market.
Agree, it would be nice if Disney+ did arrive on TiVo. It is actually a fairly basic app all things told. I purchased a FireTV 4K stick for $29 and couldn't be happier. Plex and all the other apps are much better and updated more often not to mention it is more powerful hardware so just plain works better. As much as I would like to use TiVo for everything, the reality that is unless TiVo integrates AndroidTV into their platform, it will always lag behind and be a niche offering with limited support.
A good example of this is the Xfinity on demand streaming app, TiVo lost support for on demand natively on the devices and yet you can access it on LG TV or other devices like Roku via the new app which ironically isn't on TiVo...
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TiVo uses the same HTML5 app platform that older Sunmsung TVs use. On top of that they have a very convoluted way of submitting an app to TiVo for inclusion on he system. And in addition to all that they have less than 100k users. The only new apps we're getting are from little startups that are targeting everything. We've specifically been told that we will never get the newest Hulu.
This is why the next Mini will run Android TV. It's the only way for them to stay current on the apps without having to manage it all themselves. Still not sure why they didn’t go that same route with the Edge.
Now that Tivo+ is here I think it is less likely that Tivo will ever add any new apps to their platform. Any time you spend watching these other apps is less potential time you could spend watching Tivo+.
I've abandoned TiVo Apps completely, they're old, slow, and basically disappointing or broken; not worth bothering with at all anymore. Now I move back and forth between Roku and FireTV for them. I'm favoring Roku right now because FireTV annoys me with it making the Amazon stuff more a built-in part of the interface than all the app stuff and for lack of any real TiVo-like integration of content from multiple parties, I just want to go to the app I want and get what it offers from there and be done with it.
Heck, I don't really even want it built into my TV anymore because I'm tired of old crappy penny pinching slow CPUs in that part of the hardware and no way to upgrade that portion of the system.
I spend 95%+ of my time watching apps. The 5% I watch actual TiVo is because there are still a few shows I can’t get via apps without commercials
It's just not worth it to make many of these apps for Tivo. Not enough users. Not worth it to design and maintain and support.
It's also completely irrelevant to you as a consumer whether Disney isn't bothering (true) or some greedy Tivo exec is trying to extort money from Disney (unlikely). Either way you don't have the app and either way there's nothing you can do about it.
But there is “something” I can do about it, my next hardware purchase will be supported by Disney.
I dont understand where these “low” installed base numbers are coming from, from TiVo Wiki “As of January 31, 2016, TiVo reported 6.8 million subscribers.”
Once there is a TiVo app for the Apple TV, maybe I'll never have to use the TiVo UI again
Right, I mean, there's nothing you can do about it in terms of your Tivo not playing it. Even for the apps that exist in some form on Tivo, I don't use any of my Tivo's streaming capabilities. It's easier for me to just switch to my Android TV or Roku and have a better app experience. And you can get a 4K ftv or Roku for 40 bucks.
Very unlikely to see any new substantial apps on the linux-based Tivos. The android dongle next year may be different.
My WAG is that the ultimate goal of Tivo Plus is to pull an amazon/hulu/apple and provide subscriptions *through* Plus to circumvent the need for dedicated apps.
todays headline, "Disney+ Reaches 10 Million Subscribers" I would hope if a service has 10 million subscribers in less then a week that TiVo would find a way to include it
TiVo does not make the apps, the streaming services do.
Can we all give Doug an AMEN for his comments!
Down in the weeds: Disney Says Disney Plus Has Over 10 Million Sign-Ups After Launch Day
It started the signup in August.
Hot off the press from TiVo Support on Twitter.
More here from Facebook.
The only new apps will be garbage apps like TiVo+ unless they decide to update our TiVos with an Android based platform. Major third party app developers aren't going to be bothered writing for a platform no one else uses. Consumer customers, who put TiVo on the map, have been abandoned in favor of Cable MSO's who apparantly have the android platform already. They've become a dirty company and I hope the Edge falls flat on its face as that is money they could have put into talented developers to bring a real UI and app platform to Roamios and Bolts. You can complain on Facebook or send a suggestion, but all you're going to get is Rovi corporate canned answers. A now overpriced, ad-based mediocre dvr with a horrible UI and terrible app platform, that's where we are at today.