Newbie Q's

Discussion in 'TiVo Help Center' started by thnewton, Jan 8, 2006.

  1. thnewton

    thnewton Tom

    Jan 8, 2006
    New York


    Hi Folks -

    I am a techie in everything related to computers and other gadgets, but for one reason another, I've never gotten out of the stone age when it comes to TV. I have old tube TV set, and an old analog cable set top box connected to Cablevision [our local provider].

    This year, however, I'm looking to make the full jump to a flat wide HDTV, subscribe to a service like Cablevision's IO or DirectV, and get involved in this whole incredible world of Tivo type stuff, saving shows, etc... I'd also like to figure how to get my wireless home network involed in this too...

    So anyway, starting at square one, if I could ask a few questions.

    1. If I can afford it, should I buy an HDTV with a cable card slot?

    2. If I choose Cablevision's IO as my service provider, is the best Tivo to buy the "series 2 dvr" ?

    3. Can/does the Tivo remote become your main TV remote? or do you have to mess with other remotes? Does whether I buy an HDTV with a cable card slot or not affect the answer to this question?

    4. If I have an HDTV in the living room, and another in the bedroom, do I need to hook up a tivo box in each room to take advantage of all features, or is it possible to have one Tivo box be fully accessible from both rooms or thoughout the house?

    5. I hear Directv no longer uses the Tivo box. I like the setup my brother has [directv with directivo] but he says this is not available to new customers anymore. Should I therefore steer clear of Directv?

    That's all for now. Thanks for any tips! Again, I'm starting from scratch - nothing is bought yet or subscribed to... the only thing I know is I like Tivo usability. Just trying to see how do things right.

  2. Stanley Rohner

    Stanley Rohner New Member

    Jan 18, 2004
    You can still walk in a store today and purchase an HDTV/DIRECTV/TIVO combo box.

    Directv has it's own standard definition DVR without TiVo. I don't have one, but I don't have any reason to think it's a bad unit just because it's a non-tivo DVR.
  3. classicsat

    classicsat Astute User

    Feb 18, 2004
    Ontario Canada.
    You would basically use the DVR remote for most of your TV watching.
    If you get a CC equipped TV, you will need to use the TV remote to watch from that tuner. The TiVo will control an external cable or satellite tuner, but not the tuner in TV.

    What you could do is get a Standalone S2 an SD cable box, and a CC equipped TV.

    Another option would be the DirecTV HD-TiVo DVR. DirecTV still offers TiVos, if you ask, or buy from a retail or online seller that stocks them.

    You could also wait and see about the S3.

    You can feed the output of one DVR elsewhere in your house with normal video and IR relay systems
  4. thnewton

    thnewton Tom

    Jan 8, 2006
    New York
    Thanks -- is it worth the extra cost to by an HDTV with a cable card slot?
  5. Stephen Tu

    Stephen Tu Well-Known Member

    May 10, 1999


    I usually wouldn't. Only if it's a small increase vs. the model without cablecard/QAM/8VSB tuner. The reason is that you are fairly unlikely to use a built-in tuner in an HDTV if you have a DVR. You'd use the DVR's tuner instead, the one in the TV tends only to be used for situations where you have 3 shows you want on at the same time, and want to record two & watch a third live, all in HD. This situation is rather rare, & not worth spending much money on IMO.

    I wouldn't buy a new series 2 Tivo if you are getting HDTV. Rent a HD-DVR from the cable company until the series 3 HD Cablecard Tivo being discussed in the coffee house comes out.

    The Tivo remote would only be able to control basic TV functions, like power/volume/input selection. You wouldn't have to mess much with other remotes while watching the Tivo. But I highly recommend getting a universal remote, if you are getting new equipment you can afford a good universal remote, there are many good ones in the $80-120 range.

    A single DVR only has a single output. You can hook it up so that you can watch it from another room, but you wouldn't be able to watch different things in each room at the same time. Most people would prefer to have a DVR for each set.

    No comment as I don't have experience with DirecTVs newer DVRs.
  6. Bryanw20

    Bryanw20 New Member

    Dec 27, 2005
    Oklahoma City
    Sorry can't help with cable as I only have an antenna, but what I did until I bought a seperate Tivo box for the bedroom (trust me, you'll get hooked!) was plug the composite outputs (red, white, yellow rca jacks) into a modulator [like the $30 one on this page: ] and used that with a "pyramid" to relay the IR signal back to Tivo so I could watch Tivo on any Tv in the house and control it from whereever I had the pyramid. The only minor drawback is it's mono, but I have no problems with thtat because I don't have a big fancy stereo setup anywhere in the hous but my main room.

  7. thnewton

    thnewton Tom

    Jan 8, 2006
    New York

    wow, very informative education about cable card ready hdtv's! i was wondering what the heck the card slots in the back of the S3 were [in the spy photos from ces] and was confused about what the benefit of having a tv with a built in card slot was. now i understand - there's a slight benefit for those that often record three at a time - but for my intended use, I don't see it being worth it... in the bedroom at least.

    also appreciate the advice about renting the dvr from cablevision until S3 comes out, instead of buying an S2 now.

    Thanks a lot

  8. gastrof

    gastrof Hubcaps r in fashion

    Oct 31, 2003
    Potato and pen.
    Actually, unless the HDTV is made with a recorder built-in, you'd only be able to record TWO shows at a time, and watch a

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