I know that in the past you HAD to setup Tivo the first time with a regular phone line...then you could switch it to your network and disconnect the phone. Is that still the case or have they finally come out with a box (or software) that allows you to do your first time setup through your network? I apologize if this is an old one answered elsewgere a dozen times but this is my first time back to this forum in over a year.....and I couldnt find the answer on the TIVO homesite. Lookos like I may have to get a new (3rd) Tivo after that last software update.....it has nearly disbaled the use of my wishlists. I just KNOW they're going to tell me my hard-drive is going..................AGAIN.