New Tivo Price Plans - No More Lifetime + Responses to Summary

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  1. Mar 8, 2006 #141 of 1393
    jimmymac

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    Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but from what I understand there is no more $6.95 additional Tivo option unless you currently are on that. Add another box after next week and it's going to cost you a lot more than what it would right now.
     
  2. Mar 8, 2006 #142 of 1393
    TiVoStephen

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    Service-only pricing is still available if you pick up one of these units at a retailer like Best Buy (or already have one that isn't subscribed). We haven't announced a bundled price for these types of units yet.
     
  3. Mar 8, 2006 #143 of 1393
    Test

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    thaaaaaaank you...

    i figure if these are the price plans for the s3 (free box...1 year bundle/contract) not bad...

    but i wouldnt do that for a series 2 (signing a 3 year contract) when a new series 3 is on the horizon...really, i wouldnt by a series 2 with lifetime either with the series 3 coming...so i dont know what im saying...i have my tivos with lifetime so im good to go (till one goes down) dun dun duuuuuun

    thanks for the quickest response i ever got on this message board
     
  4. Mar 8, 2006 #144 of 1393
    HannahWCU

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    OK I have read this entire thread and I think I get it. :confused:

    But I have a couple of questions that I haven't seen brought up (I apologize in advance if I missed this in the tread somewhere):

    If I was to purchase a Tivo with the new "Bundled" pricing, say the $19.95 per month option, ("free" Tivo and $19.95 month for 12 months), at the end of the contract (in this case 12 months), could I then change my contract to a "service only" contract and now only pay $12.95 per month. Or does it continue at $19.95, $18.95 or $16.95, depending on the original contract?

    Also, if I had two Tivo purchased under the new "bundled" pricing structure and they both fulfilled their contracts (both were purchased with the same "free" Tivo and $19.95 month for 12 months as above). Would one of them now qualify for the MSD of $6.95/month.


    I personally like the new pricing structure, IF, I can change to the $12.95 at the end of my contract. My second Tivo was basically purchased this way. It is a 40 hour refurbished unit that I got for "free" as long as I purchased a 12 month subscription upfront. Which will actually last 23 months since it gets the $6.95 MSD. So I "bundled" my Tivo for a contract of $6.95/month for 23 months paid upfront. Just my $0.02
     
  5. Mar 8, 2006 #145 of 1393
    gastrof

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    My feelings are similar.

    That's why I like my series 1 boxes being able to work unsubbed.

    I figured when the series 3s came out I'd get one and bite the bullet and go for Lifetime. It'd be the closest I could get to what I have now.

    Now, seems that's not gonna happen.

    Disappointing, to say the least.
     
  6. Mar 8, 2006 #146 of 1393
    TiVoStephen

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    Wrong. Sorry if we were unclear. After next week, go to retail, pick up a new box, add it to your existing account, pay $6.95 for the duration of the contract (as long as you have a qualifying unit on your account). Just like today.

    To summarize, here's what's changing next week:

    * A lot of new pricing options become available.

    * Product Lifetime will no longer be available to new subscriptions after next week.
     
  7. Mar 8, 2006 #147 of 1393
    lajohn27

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    Jimmy:

    There was some confusion earlier in the thread. That 6.95 Multi Service discount does NOT apply to the new bundled hardware & service packages.

    However, for people who already have a TIVO, adding a TIVO will continue to be 6.95 a month if you just pick it up at retail; or already have it; or buy it on E-Bay or from your cousin or whatever.

    J
     
  8. Mar 8, 2006 #148 of 1393
    vertigo235

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    This sucks, I had an on S1 Box that I had canceled because I'm all DTiVo now, we decided to set it up for the In-Laws to try out, and when I "reactivated it" I totaly didn't realize I was agreeing to a 1 year commitment! I just realized this when I was reading this thread.

    I sure hope they like it for a year, otherwise I've been successfully shafted by TiVo, I can't believe a 1 year commitment would aply to a re-activation.

    Boy do I feel stupid. :(
     
  9. Mar 8, 2006 #149 of 1393
    gastrof

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    My guess is that if you get the $20 per month setup, since the TiVo is "free", you never actually buy it.

    When your contract is over, you likely won't be able to switch to a "service only" plan, because you don't own a TiVo.

    You'd have to continue with another "free TiVo" plan, or give the machine back to them.

    Maybe they'd let you buy the TiVo for a discount (hey...it's used), and THEN let you switch to a "service only" plan?
     
  10. Mar 8, 2006 #150 of 1393
    davezatz

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    This seems confusing... will an average consumer new to TiVo see all these pricing options (at least 4 as far as a I can tell, and maybe rebates too), throw their hands in the air, and decide to go the simple route of paying the cable company 10 bucks a month?
     
  11. Mar 8, 2006 #151 of 1393
    Spiff

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    That's obviously wrong. After the year, you still keep the box, just can't use it unless you convert to monthly service only price.
     
  12. Mar 8, 2006 #152 of 1393
    gwn21

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    Well, I'm bummed. I have three TiVos, all with Lifetime Subscription. I was really looking forward to the Series3. But with no Lifetime, it's going to be a hard sell for me. I liked owning what I buy. It will be hard for me to justify spending $XXX amout of money every 3 years, to be on the 3 year contract or even just a monthly fee.

    Yeah, Lifetime was "way too good of a deal." But for me, my relationship with TiVo this day forward will be one that I will really need to think about. It sad that there will be no more Lifetime subscriptions.
     
  13. Mar 8, 2006 #153 of 1393
    TiVoStephen

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    You are correct, you could switch to a new contract that's service-only by calling us, and pay only $12.95 per month. If you don't call us, you'll continue to be billed at the original contract price.

    Yup. Once your twelve months are up, call us, and you can convert one to $12.95, and the other to $6.95.

    Thanks, glad you liked it! You're not alone. In our numerous testing trials, the response was phenomenal.
     
  14. Mar 8, 2006 #154 of 1393
    chain777

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    Right... :rolleyes:
     
  15. Mar 8, 2006 #155 of 1393
    Spiff

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    Hmm... does this mean that if the $6.95 multi-service discount still is available for service only pricing after one year, I can convert to that?

    Say I buy a S2 unit and prepay for a year. I have another TiVo box. After one year I call to switch to service-only. Do I then pay $6.95 or $12.95?

    [edit-Never mind... I see you answered that while I was typing. Cool.]
     
  16. Mar 8, 2006 #156 of 1393
    jimmymac

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    BINGO.
     
  17. Mar 8, 2006 #157 of 1393
    dswallow

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    It will be interesting to see how any upcoming "Series 3" HD standalone unit will be priced and if service pricing will be different for it than non-HD units. And that's all I'd possibly be interested in from TiVo anymore, anyway. So I suppose I should withhold judgment.

    However, I do believe the disappearance of a lifetime subscription option is a negative and will likely cause me to review Windows Media Center and other options much more seriously when the time comes.

    I do despise the cell phone business model, though. And in practice when I was dealing with contracts would buy my cell phone unlocked and just move my SIM card to it thus staying out of contract requirements with that carrier.

    If I buy unsubsidized hardware, I should not have to endure a commitment period for service. Period. That should always be a possibility for someone. And this being an available option should always be attractive to TiVo; If that subscriber stays beyond what would've been the commitment period, they've earned more money and have no subsidizing costs to have worried about at all.

    Actually I think I'd just prefer to buy a license to the technology and control everything else myself with no subscription fee. The entire experience I've been through between DirecTV, TiVo, the HD units, the move to MPEG4 and DirecTV's in-house DVR's, TiVo's delayed availability of a HD ATSC standalone... just all has soured me on everybody. I'm gonna go read a book. ;)
     
  18. Mar 8, 2006 #158 of 1393
    mrmike

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    I need to find out if

    1) My grandfathered lifetime S1 would be transferable to an S3 when they come out
    2) If I buy a lifetime sub "gift card" can I hold it for an S3 in the next 2 years before it expires?

    If not, I'm afraid TiVo have lost a customer (And I have personally bought 7 TiVos so far as well as a dozen referrals)

    Oh yeah, one I just thought of

    3) If my lifetime subbed S1s die, will there be any way to have them replaced with equivalent units (I think what I read in this thread says "yes, at some cost to be determined later", but for how long? Will this go away if S3s are all they sell post digital changeover)

    All in all, even though this may be a good choice for TiVo the company, I don't feel like they're the company I've supported for so long somehow. It's hard to quantify, but I bet this cuts down on evangelism in a large way.
     
  19. Mar 8, 2006 #159 of 1393
    TiVoStephen

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    Just to be clear, yes, as long as you have a qualifying unit, when you convert your second unit to a new contract, it will be priced at $6.95 per month.
     
  20. Mar 8, 2006 #160 of 1393
    Spire

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    So increase the price. Even if the increase had to be substantial to make it work for TiVo, I'd probably still pay it.

    Why do I feel so strongly about this? I just don't like monthly fees -- and I know that I'm far from alone.
     

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