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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by lajohn27, Mar 8, 2006.
Good to hear and good company reaction! Thanks TiVoPony.
Update on my adventure, Tivo just sent me an E-Mail letting me know that my accounts with Tivo have been merged. Sure enough all three lifetime Tivo's are there. Very Cool! Now that was case number one. Waiting on case number two; the purchase of Lifetime on my RS-TX20. Hopefully that will show up some time today as well.
So far Tivo support has been a pleasant experience...
I called Tivo and they said they would put me on a list and call me in a week. I guess you have until March 31st to get the box at Bestbuy or somewhere and then until April 15 to convert to lifetime. I called twice. The first guy was an ass and basically hung up on me and wouldnt answer any of my questions and the second time I called the lady was nice and explained how it works to me.
So if I am only paying 6.95 for my second Tivo, why should I think about lifetime...that is 43 months before it even starts to be worth it.
You should recoup your cost in under 43 months. Also resale value is greater for a lifetime unit.
$12.95/month first unit
$6.95/month each additional DVR
$12.95/month ($299 for 1 will be recouped in 23 months).
$19.90/month ($598 for 2 will be recouped in 30 months).
$26.85/month ($897 for 3 will be recouped in 33 months).
Lots of reasons for going lifetime.
If you plan on keeping it a fairly long time, or
if you anticipate that the monthly $6.95 cost will go up (and in states with taxing it can be more like $7.51 even now), or
if you'd rather not simply "give away" money (in two years, even at the current low rate, you would have "given away" $168-180 with no permanent benefit; three years even more!), or
if you plan, down the road, to pass it along to a family member or give it as a gift to someone (and want them to have NO payment associated with the gift), or
you anticipate that you will recover much of the $300 when you sell it because it has lifetime on it, or
you are concerned that it won't be worth much on resale at all without lifetime, etc.
Let's say, after 2 years you want to sell the tivo (to upgrade to series 3 or 4, perhaps). What will it be worth? On the monthly plan, the unit will be worth nothing and you'll have paid-out $168. With the lifetime on it, you'll get at least $300. Check ebay for evidence that the lifetime units never sell for less than $300.
If you do not expect to ever sell the unit and are going to hold onto it until it dies, the odds are it will last long enough to pay for itself.
Can't ask for more than that from ya. Just be sure NOT to tell 'em where the suggestion came from.
Well, I bought my series 1 Tivo back in early 2001 and it is still going strong....with lifetime. So far, if I was paying monthly, it would have cost me over $400 (and counting every month) but I only paid $299 for LifeTime. Sounds like a win-win to me. That and I have added 2 more Tivos to my household since 2001 and they are all lifetimed as well*.
And since they are with DirecTV I didn't have to pay extra for either box to be lifetimed, so I am REALLY saving now.
Well, actually $523 on an equivalent new box comparison, vs $469 for 3 yrs.
Its not such a bad idea; these boxes are not going to last as long as the previous ones anyway now that it is 2006 and analog is on the decline...
Oh ok, so that means that they have a waiting list for current monthly subscribers to switch to lifetime? I kind of wondered if that was the case because when I log into www.tivo.com my payment plan still says "TiVo Monthly Service". I did however call Tivo again yesterday and the representative told me that in their computer it says that I am a lifetime subscriber and that maybe the information hasn't been transmitted over their internet servers yet. Well at the present time, the tivo website is still labelling me as a monthly subscriber, but I trust it will be updated soon. I just hope that I won't get billed for another month before it gets updated.
Another little problem TiVo will have to clean up for some.
I didn't realize this was a possibility. I switched to Lifetime online just before they removed this as an online feature. I'll have to keep an eye on my credit card statements to make sure they don't charge me another monthly fee.
I think you'll probably be fine if you did it online. If you look at the overview of your account on www.tivo.com does your payment plan now say "Lifetime Service" or something? If it does then you should be fine. I think that I'll be fine as well because now that I think it over, in Tivo's computers at their headquarters it says that I am a lifetime subscriber. So I think it's just that it isn't showing up on my account on www.tivo.com yet. So I'll probably be fine but I'll monitor it until it gets adjusted, just to be safe.
Yes, it indeed says "Lifetime Service".
Under settings, my series 2 says "Transfers allowed", but my series 1 says "N/A". I'm guess they're simply referring to the lack of HMO on series 1.
This is akin to what my supermarket does. They have "sale" prices marked on their shelves, but when I get to the register if I forget to give them my "club card" they don't give me the sale prices.
Apparently, a lot of customers don't remember to ask for (or don't care about) the savings and they must make a lot of extra money each year on those people.
I don' t like it, but is it unfair?
I don't know the answer to the "unfair" question, but I no longer shop at a grocery store that does that. The two grocery stores that I now use either: ask for the card upfront, or don't have a card. Unfair? I dunno. Slimy? Yeah, I felt slimed, so I moved on.
The whole Club Card fisaco is in place so Madison Avenue can track your spending habits and sell it to marketers. They are able to track what "Sale" items bring you into the store. They can tie in front page circular ad advertising rates to proven quantity sales based on the data taken from the card scans. This marketing data is valuable.
Good luck tracking my purchases - i never give these stores my real info.