New "Tivo Online"

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by CIP54, Jun 9, 2015.

  1. Jun 9, 2015 #81 of 348
    Series3Sub

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    It is nice to see TiVo finally catching up with just about every cable and sat TV provider. While this is nice, it is pretty much the same experience with cable and DirecTV and DishAnywhere (renamed from DishOnLine) services with all the same re-directing to 3rd parties, requirements of cable subscriptions for some content, and streaming from your DVR, provided you have either the external trans-coder connected to your DVR or built-in trans-coder within the DVR. And BTW, the access to "broadcasters" or "OTA" is a redirect to a major broadcast network's already existing site that one could access without TiVo online for years previous, just like all the other cable and sat "online" portals.

    This is good, but it aint no innovation nor TiVolution, but it's nice to see TiVo provide its subscribers, especially those who don't subscribe to cable, what many others were getting for YEARS. Frankly, a Slingbox would provide a superior experience, compared to the TiVo recorded on the DVR flagged content that still won't stream.

    Unfortunately, TiVo NOT being an MVPD does hurt the TiVo Online service some. On DishAnywhere, I can stream and watch ALL the content including all the premium movie channels LIVE as they air all from my DVR, no restrictions. It would be nice if TiVo can find some way to crack that last wall, but not being an MVPD and a smaller company means TiVo has its work cut out to provide the kind of unlimited access one get with DishOnline. TiVo can not be blamed for "playing it safe." TiVo can't open itself to lawsuits from content providers.
     
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  2. Jun 9, 2015 #82 of 348
    JBDragon

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    No kidding!!! No more dealing with trying to run a Android App, and I was getting ready to setup my Slingbox, but now it looks like I may not have to. This is great!!! I still don't have PLEX or anything on my Tivo yet, but this works!!!
     
  3. Jun 9, 2015 #83 of 348
    JBDragon

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    That would still be great. Here I was getting what I needed to get my old SlingBox setup to watch Tivo on my Home computer, but with Tivo Online, it looks like I no longer need to worry about that. I can already watch away from home on my iOS devices. Watching away on a Windows laptop may come in handy at times, but low on my priority list.

    This is really great news. Not being nickel and dime for service fee's is great. The Hardware, with the Roamio Boxes and Tivo Mini's is great!!! Is Tivo finally waking up?
     
  4. Jun 9, 2015 #84 of 348
    buckweet1980

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    I'm sure I'll be flamed, but I'll go ahead and say it..

    I sure hope they make the TIVO interface look like this. Current interface is archaic in design. This could bring it into 2015..
     
  5. Jun 9, 2015 #85 of 348
    JBDragon

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    That right and it opens in full screen, but for whatever reason the 30 second skip button then disappears!!! Seems strange to do that.
     
  6. Jun 9, 2015 #86 of 348
    wmcbrine

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    There's a timeline bar at the bottom of the screen if I move the cursor there, with the 8-second replay and 30-second skip buttons as clickable areas at either end. The bar sometimes auto-hides, and then sometimes sticks, but still works. :)
     
  7. Jun 9, 2015 #87 of 348
    JBDragon

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    I think that's the DRM (Digital Rights Management!!!) I assume you have cable? That's why so much is blocked. Hopefully Tivo can work out some kind of deal to be allowed to stream like this. I'm using a Antenna and every single one of my programs I looked though could ALL stream, except for 1 program, "What would you Do?" on ABC. That one show says the same "This show is currently unavailable to watch online" Even the 500+ Tivo Suggestions that Tivo Recorded all have the little green Play arrow on my Tivo.

    I was getting ready to hook up my old Slingbox pro, but now I'm not sure if I really need to?!?!
     
  8. Jun 9, 2015 #88 of 348
    cmannes

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    So, any chance this web app provides enough info for someone to make a simple desktop player?

    I'm quite happy this is there, but sometimes I just want a pathetically simple app that will play something off my tivo via the streamer. I don't need to know the cast list with links to what else they've done.
     
  9. Jun 9, 2015 #89 of 348
    bradleys

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    This little utility worked for me back in the day.

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=490198

    There is also the Plex TiVo channel.

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=501896&highlight=plex+channel
     
  10. Jun 9, 2015 #90 of 348
    Bytez

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    It says show cannot be streamed at this time for all my recorded shows.
     
  11. Jun 9, 2015 #91 of 348
    bradleys

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    Are all your recordings from copy protected channels?
     
  12. Jun 9, 2015 #92 of 348
    sirfergy

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    It uses the Stream, which means for me it sucks because the Stream built into my Roamio Pro can never successfully stream a full show. :(
     
  13. Jun 10, 2015 #93 of 348
    Bytez

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    None are protected. Fios only encrypts hbo and cinemax, I believe.
     
  14. Jun 10, 2015 #94 of 348
    Bierboy

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    I'm getting errors saying my DVR is not connected to the network...which is just ridiculous...
     
  15. Jun 10, 2015 #95 of 348
    Bierboy

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    Let me get this straight -- all this does is redirect you to somewhere on the Web where you can stream the show....like a network's Web site or Hulu or Vudo? I don't get what the big deal is because that's all it's doing for me. It's not like you can stream to your computer from your TiVo...
     
  16. Jun 10, 2015 #96 of 348
    lpwcomp

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    Encryption and copy protection are two separate things. But your main point is correct - FIOS only copy protects content for premium channels. Same as Comcast. TWC on the other hand copy protects almost everything. BTW, Comcast encrypts everything.
     
  17. Jun 10, 2015 #97 of 348
    lpwcomp

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    John's...
    From what I have read here, the redirection to a third party website is for OOH streaming or possibly even in home if you don't have a Stream or it isn't one of your TiVos. In home, it uses a Stream, just like the app. In other words, the redirection is an addition, not an instead of.
     
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  18. Jun 10, 2015 #98 of 348
    CIP54

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    The product right now is really designed for use on a home network for streaming live or recorded content. OOH has decent management capabilities but clearly from their website not intended (yet?) for OOH video streaming.
     
  19. Jun 10, 2015 #99 of 348
    tomhorsley

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    Yea, the tests I did last night were clearly streaming from the TiVo to the web browser. The start of the show, for instance, was at the exact same point in the middle of the exact same commercial the TiVo had recorded.
     
  20. SugarBowl

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    I get this error when using the Windows 8 IE full screen app. The desktop version of IE works.
     

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