New Tivo Interface: Tivo UX

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by rick123, Sep 9, 2016.

  1. SrLANGuy

    SrLANGuy Member

    Dec 26, 2001


    FYI - When you use the TiVo Live Guide, the date & time are shown on the left side just above the 8 channels, but you'll also notice that to left of the date & time is the Rewind symbol and to the right is a Fast-Forward symbol. So you can use those buttons on the remote to move forwards or backwords in 30-minute increments. So for instance, early in the day, I bring up the TiVo Live Guide and start hitting fast-forward until it shows 7:00pm and then the left side shows me all of the prime-time shows. Also, if you look at the bottom right of the TiVo Live Guide, it shows that you can use the Instant Replay button or the Jump Forward button to move to the previous or next day. Very convenient for scheduling recordings.
  2. TonyD79

    TonyD79 Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    Columbia, MD
    And what about shows not on the half hour?

    No one can convince me that the Live Guide is better.
  3. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

    Apr 17, 2000
    You're moving the guide forward 30 minutes. It still shows you what is airing at that time. So if say you advance the guide to 7:30 and the channel you're on has something airing from 6:00-8:00 it will still show you the 6:00pm show. If you advance to 8:00 then that show will go away and whatever is on at 8:00 will be at the top of the list.

    The TiVo Guide is much, much, better for setting up recordings for future shows. Especially for movie channels. It allows you to pull up that channel, switch over to the right panel, and then you can use channel up/down to scroll through pages at a time. With grid you can only use left/right arrows to move one program at a time on a single channel.

    Although if you're using the guide to actually watch live TV I could see how the grid might be better for finding something to watch. But I never watch live TV so that functionality isn't useful to me at all.
  4. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

    May 14, 2007
    I thought you could use the -->| button to jump like 12 or 24hrs ahead in the grid guide?
  5. JolDC

    JolDC Active Member

    Dec 21, 2001
    Arlington VA


    Yes. FF skips ahead two hours and skip to tick skips ahead 24 hours.
  6. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

    Nov 25, 2003
    Advance and Replay jump the Grid Guide 1 day ahead and back.

    FastForward and Rewind jump the Grid Guide 1 page forward and back.

    Regardless, the Grid Guide doesn't provide as clear a view (i.e. easily readable and digestable) of the current and upcoming programming. Using Dan's example, on any one page of the Grid Guide, you might see 1 or 2 movie titles for a given channel, and 1 of them is likely truncated. You'll need to scroll right to see any additional titles. Compare that to the Live Guide, where you'll always be able to see 8 titles in the right pane. (That said, I always use the Grid Guide.)
  7. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Rochester NY
    I am not sure why any cares which guide someone else likes or uses. Just for reference I like the Live Guide better. But as others have said I don't use the Guide much as I don't use it find live TV to watch as I don't watch live TV.
  8. FitzAusTex

    FitzAusTex Member

    May 7, 2014
    I really like the Live Guide in theory (as I've already stated) but I'm a manic TV watcher and generally watch 4 tuners at once. I tune to one or two news channels, a sports channel, a movie premium and Smithsonian or Science or something similar.

    I'm generally pausing on the news channels to build up enough buffer to skip commercials (oh, if we only had a 60 minute buffer!) and I swap through the tuners.

    Grid Guide is easier for me to tune to something else when one of my four tuners is tuned to something I'm no longer interested in swapping to.

    What I stated above is how I watch TV when I'm not watching a recording, where I totally focus on that recording, and don't care what's on the tuners (although they're generally still tuned to a channel I'd want to be on when I'm done watching recordings, and can rewind any of the 4 tuners by 30 minutes).

    Based off of everything everyone's said about Live Guide, I'm gonna give it another shot today.

    And yeah, I have issues.
  9. TonyD79

    TonyD79 Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    Columbia, MD

    But why would you want to limit yourself to one channel for the future? TCM maybe. But HBO is several channels. Most of the movie channels are. So you miss what is on hbo2 because you are focusing on HBO.

    Besides if I want to see movies, I can search for them and not limit at all. With live guide you are limiting what you see because you are assuming what you want to see is on a specific channel.

    There is a reason why everyone uses a grid. Almost every DVR. Newspapers. Webpages.

    The fact is that the live guide only exists because TiVo didn't want to pay the fee for the guide. Not because it is better.

    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  10. series5orpremier

    series5orpremier Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2013
    Sounds normal to me.
  11. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

    Sep 21, 2004
    Can we get back on topic? This new UI has nothing to do with a live tv guide. Arguing about which one is better seems pointless.
  12. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

    May 6, 2002
    How did this thread deteriorate into an argument about which guide is better? Can't we just all agree that most of us hate the idea of tiles and wish to continue to use the guide of our choice?
  13. adessmith

    adessmith Active Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    Personally, I think the tivo UI is due for an update.
    Not sure if this is the right way to go with it (not until it arrives) but at least they are doing something.
    Hopefully a new way of combining local recordings and streaming services works better than the hack job they did with onepass. To me, it has always seemed clunky and episodes always seem to appear on hulu days before they show up in my onepass. Its a chore to navigate to recordings where there are hundreds of episodes available to stream with the current interface.
    My guess is the screenshots you are seeing with the large tiles will be a sort of shortcut for the predictive stuff they mention, and mostly limited to the main tivo central screen and a few other areas. Most likely you will still be able to browse shows in a more traditional style interface if you so choose... or we can hope anyway.
  14. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

    Oct 31, 2007
    I do not think the Guide will change, but other content will migrate from lists to art.

    I picture the My Shows list be be similar to Plex, where you can view the content as poster art with an option to display as a list.

    I think the UI is due for a change and I am keeping an open mind.
  15. jonw747

    jonw747 Active Member

    Aug 2, 2015
    Whatever they do it has to be snappy and quick to do common tasks, or nobody will like it. And if we have to buy a Bolt to get acceptable performance, that's going to suck.

    I accept that the HTML 5 interface to the streaming Apps is going to be clunky, but they'd better not do that to the entire UI.
  16. tlc

    tlc Active Member

    May 29, 2002
    This. Text is best. Images don't help. I haven't gone back to the SD UI, but I've completely tuned out the Discovery Bar. I only notice it when I accidentally navigate into it.

    Searching/suggesting across multiple providers is fine. Just present the info better.

    And give me suggestions when I ask for them, not every screen.

    There's not enough room for text in these images.
    I hope that's just the top screen and "My Shows" is like normal. I don't want to have the useful part of the UI limited to that upper left hand corner.


    If it's as bad as it looks, I hope it doesn't reach the Premieres.
  17. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

    Nov 25, 2003
    If the UI was designed by the same people who put the following web page together, we're in trouble...
  18. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    :eek: What the heck was that!?!
  19. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

    Apr 17, 2000
    There is a video at the end and it shows something about FanTV. Maybe Harpervision is right! :eek:
  20. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

    May 14, 2007
    Well, if you would've read my darn post where I spell this out, you would've already known! ;)

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