New Tivo Interface: Tivo UX

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by rick123, Sep 9, 2016.

  1. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

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    I never said I wanted the grid guide to be unavailable. I prefer the live guide because I use it a lot to look for movies that I want to record on TCM and MGM. It's a lot easier to look at a page of entries at once.
     
  2. adessmith

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    I've always felt the same way... why call it the "live" guide when it only shows you a single "live show" at a time?
    With the grid, I get a much better view of what is "live" (multiple live shows at a glance) and what will be live very soon.
    The live guide is almost the exact opposite of what you would expect.
     
  3. adessmith

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    I guess the live guide is better for finding things to record... the grid guide is better for watching live TV.
     
  4. FitzAusTex

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    In theory I should like the Live Guide better than Grid, but I don't have the patience to look at one channel at a time. However I'd take either over a screen full of tiles where text is de-emphasized (and tiny). And this goes for the 1P Manager, To-do List, and My Shows, not just the Guide. I deal with tiles on Netflix, but I only use NF a few times a month. I'm not so worried that tivo would get rid of the current Guide, more worried about My Shows.
     
  5. adessmith

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    I got used to the large thumbnails in windows media center for recorded shows.
    It actually made it much easier for my 7YO to scan through recorded shows and find something she wanted to watch. It also worked better in our bedroom where we had a smaller screen and text was a little more difficult to read.
     
  6. TonyD79

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    Didn't mean to imply you did. I was actually supporting your desire. The rest was just a personal comment on the live guide. I never understood its appeal but I support anyone who wants it.
     
  7. TonyD79

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    True dat.

    Btw, the tiles actually make it so much harder to find things. I use Netflix a lot and I hate trying to find new stuff on it.
     
  8. brandenwan

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    Poor Renee. Booooo.
     
  9. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    What is Live TV?
     
  10. aaronwt

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    The live guide does exactly what it says. you see what is currently on for a bunch of channels at the same time. more than what you can see with the grid guide.
     
  11. abovethesink

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    So they aren't going to show this at all at cedia? Bummer. Just the Bolt+ then?

    It would be kind of funny if they just quietly ship out the Bolt+ boxes with this UI. It would certainly get us buzzing.
     
  12. Dan203

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    TiVo didn't have the grid guide for a long time becuase of the licensing costs. That's where their own guide design came from. They added the grid guide first to the DirecTiVo becuase DirecTV insisted on it, then released it to regular TiVos as part of the 3.0 software update. (IIRC) That was like 3-4 years after TiVo was released. At the time the patent for the guide was owned by GemStar and they were very agressive about suing anyone who used it without licensing.
     
  13. mlcarson

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    It's amazing that our patent office is so inept as to give patents out for things like a table. I wonder if I can patent the pie chart.
     
  14. aaronwt

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    I'm sure apple already has that.
     
  15. TonyD79

    TonyD79 Well-Known Member

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    And given that five of those abstract patents were stricken down last year, it shows how ineffective the patent office is.
     
  16. HarperVision

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    Yes, they call it the PiChart! :p
     
  17. Jonathan_S

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    Yep, I was going to make basically that same point.

    Looking at screenshots of the HD versions of each
    The live guide shows you:
    (left column) what's currently playing on 8 simultaneous channels AND (right column) the 8 current and upcoming programs on the selected channel.

    The grid guide shows you:
    For 8 simultaneous channels, what's current and upcoming over the next 2.5 hours (though you don't get a full listing of the furthest 1/2 hour)


    If you're only interested in what's on right now either works.

    The live guide has an advantage if you want to look further into a specific channel; especially a movie channel - the Grid Guide might only show a single program while Live will still list 8.

    The grid guide has an advantage if you want to know what will be playing on a bunch of channels 15 minutes from now (or if you want to see how close programs are to ending on a bunch of channels)
     
  18. mrizzo80

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    What does everyone make of the new TiVo UX announcement/rollout?

    There was a press release, a few tech sites got a bit more info for their articles, and a couple screenshots were provided and/or found by enthusiasts digging around tivo.com. Doesn't seem like a good way to announce your new UX that has been in development for two years.
     
  19. adessmith

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    I guess it goes to show I haven't spent enough time on the live guide. I just remember getting frustrated trying to find a currently airing show. I'm thinking it was probably because it was coming on in just a few minutes as opposed to on right now (something I had forgot to record) ... so I was frantically having to flip through one station at a time to find it before I missed the beginning of it... this was before I realized you could switch it to the grid guide.
     
  20. adessmith

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    I would imagine now that some of the "insiders" have gotten a first look at it, there will be a more detailed announcement with more information very soon.
    They are probably trying to let the Bolt+ announcement marinate a little longer before no one cares anymore because all they are talking about is the new UX.
     

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