New TiVo Hydra Interface In Action

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by kbmb, Feb 24, 2017.

  1. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    On the Roamio and Bolt the OS portion is stored on solid state memory soldered to the mobo, not on the disk. That's how you're able to just drop in a new disk and have it automatically formatted and used.
     
  2. ajwees41

    ajwees41 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure if that would work I think it's going to be tied to your TSN
     
  3. Mikeguy

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    Except, who knows what TiVo is doing on its end--could be, if TiVo HQ sees the change, it won't allow use to go back. I'd want TiVo to confirm things first (which it won't do, as we're talking opening the box?).
     
  4. Jonathan_S

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    And anyway TiVo's process for rolling out software upgrades is to add your unit's TSN to the list on their server for that upgrade; and I doubt they remove it from the list later. So every time your TiVo reports it's TSN and software version the server looks to see if there's a newer version authorized for it and if so rolls it out.

    (Which is why on the really old ones there was that Don't be an Idiot thread explaining the upgrade loop you'd get stuck in if you used the image from a different OEM's TiVo on yours; the TiVo would constantly try to upgrade to the correct one but the upgrade attempt would fail every time because it wasn't for the same vendor as the currently running (incorrect) image)

    So I'm pretty sure even if you could roll back to an archived disk, or archived image, your TiVo would just upgrade itself to Hydra again the next time it called home. Oops.
     
  5. aaronwt

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    I plan to try it on my least used TiVo first. Then if I like it I will switch the rest.
     
  6. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I might consider that. I have a Bolt in my office which I rarely use directly. I mainly access it through a Mini in the dinning room or my main TiVo in the living room. That could be a good test bed. As long as all TiVos don't need to be running it for MRS to work.
     
  7. adessmith

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    I'll be interested to see how they handle this with the tivo minis.
    I wonder if the mini will keep it's existing interface, or if it will need to be updated also.
    Additionally, I wonder if a mini that has not been updated will even connect to a hydra enabled tivo.
    Who knows if the hardware in the mini will even be able to run this... Somehow I get the feeling that mini users might get screwed with this update somehow...
     
  8. aaronwt

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    if Hydra can run on a Premiere, it should have zero issues on a Mini.
     
  9. Dan203

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    You'd think they'd be working on a new Mini. It's been 4 years since the Mini was released and even then it was using old technology. (same generation chip as the Premiere) The only update they've done is the one to add RF remote. Seems like it's high time for a real update with Bolt generation hardware and a better looking case design.
     
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  10. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    I'm a little surprised it hasn't been demanded by MSOs, at least those like Vodafone, above, who are actually providing UHD.
     
  11. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    It's already a little annoying, I'd think, for BOLT customers with Minis, having a different UI depending on the device in use; if Hydra isn't available for Minis then ALL their Mini customers will have the same disjointed experience.
     
  12. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Heh, I could see a lot of customers taking advantage of TiVo's 30-day money back guarantee if they don't provide a rollback option. Why risk one of my functioning units?
     
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  13. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    I will wait for you guys to try it and complain for a while first!

    Actually, picking up a new (hopefully updated) mini isn't a bad idea. I could use a new mini. I have no doubt that I will upgrade - just not sure I want to be an early adopter this time around.
     
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  14. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

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    Now that's an interesting--and sad--thought.
     
  15. BillyClyde

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    I don't think they are bothering with a new mini because aren't they going to be just going to app solutions on streamers instead?
     
  16. Dan203

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    For the Mavrik that will work because the video will always be transcoded. For regular TiVos they store the original video stream, which means that they have to transcode on the fly during playback. Doing that significantly reduces the user experience with trickplay. Try the FireTV app with your TiVo and you'll see what I mean.

    The Mini supports all the same formats as the TiVo itself, so they don't have to transcode for it. So it provides a much better user experience.
     
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  17. Eldragun

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    Well, Ive been waiting for a while for a new Mini, Ira said to look for a Mini refresh the first half of 2017, but we havent heard a word yet. I wonder if they're abandoning that plan?
     
  18. adessmith

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    I didn't know about this... I just bought 2 minis this year :(
     
  19. Eldragun

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    I was taking about updated Revisions of the Mini
     
  20. adessmith

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    Yeah, I believe I understood what you were saying.
    I meant that I had not heard the rumors of a "Mini refresh the first half of 2017". IF this happens, I'm going to wish that I waited and got the new revision.
    I don't really have a need for 4k or wifi though... so if that's all it brings I'll be fine. If the old revisions do not support the hydra interface, that will be a bit disappointing though... I guess time will tell.
    I wouldn't count out a refresh for the mini though... Don't they have a history of not officially announcing new products until they are ready to launch?
     

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