New TiVo HD Software Update

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by TiVoPony, Aug 16, 2007.

  1. Aug 17, 2007 #81 of 196

    burningcedar New Member

    Aug 4, 2007


    For what its worth (don't flame the messenger) I just got off the phone with TiVo Customer Support.

    According to them they are aware that this did NOT fix many of the macroblocking problems. They only expected a marginal improvement from this fix. They are continuing to evaluate the problem but have no estimate of progress at this time.

    I saw what appears to be a very slight improvement; but still fairly frequent macroblocking and audio dropouts (approx every 5 minutes).

    I'm running 8.1.7b2 on two SA S cards. I'm within a week of having to make the keep-it-or-return-it decision.
  2. Aug 17, 2007 #82 of 196

    busyba The Funcooker

    Feb 5, 2003
    Are the cards provided by Time Warner Cable in NYC susceptible to this problem?
  3. Aug 17, 2007 #83 of 196

    randymac88 Member

    Feb 29, 2004
    If the problem you're referring to is macroblocking, then yes, TWCNYC cablecards are suceptible.

    Sadly, in earlier posts I reported that it fixed my pixelation. This morning I saw *less* pixelation, but once I started recording a program it looked like it came back full-on. i don't know. It's definitely not fixed after the upgrade, that I do know.
  4. Aug 17, 2007 #84 of 196

    ChrisPA New Member

    Aug 2, 2007
    Big improvement since update! I won't be around until Sunday to test/watch further, but the improvement is already very obvious so I figured it was worth mentioning:

    No blocking in over an hour - compared to at least 1-2 times per minute before update! :) On Sunday night I plan to try more stations, etc, but so far things look promising

    My setup:
    Philly area Verizon FIOS w/ 2 CC's...

    (also saw block artifacts with Comcast and no CC's before switching to FIOS two weeks ago)

    edit: spoke too soon... seeing bad blocking on one channel, but only that channel. guess i'll have to wait and see if its an isolated problem...
  5. Aug 17, 2007 #85 of 196

    gbronzer New Member

    May 19, 2006


    Since b2, my pixelation seems slightly less often but still happens several times a minute. I've got 2 SA cards.
  6. Aug 17, 2007 #86 of 196

    ktm450exc New Member

    Mar 5, 2007
    System: TivoHD, 2x Moto CC, Comcast Cable

    Prior to the b2 update I would get pixelation on the Tivo menus at random times, pixelation TV shows irregularly and varying in severity (either 80% of picture or about an 8"x2" block).

    After the update I haven't seen any Tivo menu pixelation and new recordings haven't shown any pixelation on any of the channels.
  7. Aug 17, 2007 #87 of 196

    Chimpware New Member

    Jan 30, 2002
    Nice job Tivo!

    It appears you have rectified the issue for the people who had a minor intermittent problem and were not complaining much. Those experiencing annoying macroblocking every 4 to 60 seconds using SA SCards, no joy. Way to focus on the core issue boys.

    I am happy for those who no longer have any macroblocking using Moto cards, but come on Tivo this is a complete joke.
  8. Aug 17, 2007 #88 of 196

    rainwater Active Member

    Sep 21, 2004
    Yeah, I'm sure they are sitting back, drinking a martini laughing at the SA card users now.
  9. Aug 17, 2007 #89 of 196

    d_anders Sr Legacy Member

    Oct 12, 2000
    Twin Cities...
    I would really like to know if an original Series 3 in your home entertainment setup would have the same issues. If they or still exhibit some with some improvement, then you could determine that it's not fully or not a Tivo HD problem at all.

    If an original Series 3 just worked, with the same cable cards, with no issues, then you and we would all know for sure that you're particular issues with the TiVoHD are all on the mark.

    Don't get me wrong, we all know you have major problems with the TiVo HD...but given that there are also others with far less issues, there's definitely something about your particular setup (could be down to the firmware level on your cable cards; which your cable company controls) that is making the existing problems worse.

    Have you asked TiVo for a free exchange, just to test this very thing you? Given how vocal you've been, it would be in everyone's interests.
  10. Aug 17, 2007 #90 of 196

    yunlin12 Tivonation Citizen

    Mar 14, 2003
    San Jose, CA
    This comment is unfair :thumbsdown:
  11. Aug 17, 2007 #91 of 196

    TiVotion Early Adoptersaurus

    Dec 6, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    Software engineers set coding priorities by figuring out who's complaining the least, then focusing all development efforts around that group of people. Didn't you know that, rain? ;)
  12. Aug 17, 2007 #92 of 196

    TracerBullet New Member

    Dec 17, 2004
    Just had my cablecard install in Brooklyn. I'm getting pixellation. It's not terrible, but it's annoying. The installer even commented on it and checked my coax- no problems. SA cards, for what it's worth (and it seems to be worth quite a bit).
  13. Aug 17, 2007 #93 of 196

    jfh3 Active Member

    Apr 15, 2004
    Denver area
    No, before b2 I saw pixelization both just OTA and with a Motorola MCard installed on both programs and menus.

    After b2, haven't seen any yet.
  14. Aug 17, 2007 #94 of 196

    jfh3 Active Member

    Apr 15, 2004
    Denver area
    I thought you were returning your box and not posting here any more.

    If you have any proof that Tivo isn't focusing on the "core issue", post it. Otherwise, please ... STFU. I'm really getting tired of hearing you ***** about the same thing over and over and over and over in any thread remotely related to the THD box.

    There is still a problem. Same options as before - if you don't want to trust that Tivo will figure out the Tivo issue, return the box and get your service refunded.

    From what you have previously described, I think you have something else going on with your setup and your cable company hasn't done a good enough job ensuring you have a good, clean signal. MAYBE it's all Tivo, but I doubt it.
  15. Aug 17, 2007 #95 of 196

    andyf Well-Known Member

    Feb 23, 2000
    As in this? +1

  16. Aug 17, 2007 #96 of 196

    MickeS Well-Known Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Well, he says he won't post anymore about this. Except, he will post more about it if someone asks him. :)
  17. Aug 17, 2007 #97 of 196

    MoranJ2000 Member

    Aug 7, 2007
    I've got a pair of SA S-Cards and I'm sorry to say that the b2 update has not done anything for me. The macroblocking is as severe and as frequent as it was before...
  18. Aug 17, 2007 #98 of 196

    AGBulls New Member

    Jul 30, 2007
    Chicago, IL
    If Chimpware finally returned his Tivo and is outta the forums I think we can all say:

    Hasta La Vista. It's about time.
  19. Aug 17, 2007 #99 of 196

    GoldenTiger Tivo Pony =)!

    Apr 10, 2002
    I haven't tested mine yet since I was out of town for a few days, but I will see tonight whether this resolved my issue with my 2x Scientific Atlanta S-Cards from Comcast. I hope it does, but it is still good news to see that they have released a patch and are making an effort towards resolving these issues :).
  20. bkdtv

    bkdtv New Member

    Jan 9, 2003
    DC Metro Area
    It doesn't sound like the latest update does anything for SA users. But it does appear that they've eliminated the last of the problems with Motorola CableCards.

    Now that they're done with Motorola, perhaps they can focus more of their efforts on the issue with SA CableCards.

    Nearly 70% of all deployed CableCards are of the Motorola variety, so it's not surprising that they focused their efforts there first.

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