New TiVo Bolt OTA

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by davezatz, Sep 27, 2018.

  1. rdrrepair

    rdrrepair Bill Knapp

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    Many people who have owned their TiVo for 3+ years have reported being given the option to purchase lifetime for $99 to $199 by threatening to cancel their service. Obviously, ymmv. Let us know how you make out and if not successful the first time try again with another agent.
     
  2. schatham

    schatham Well-Known Member

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    You are missing the control over what your watching. Streaming may not let you bypass commercials, FF and RW stink on streaming. You can keep shows as long as you want without them no longer being available. Just over all Tivo is a better experience.
     
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  3. just4tivo

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    If the goal for cord cutters is to have phone service (some form or another, TV (one form or another), broadband (one form or another), and a DVR the question is total cost and money saved by cutting the cord.

    For me, phone and broadband is $90 and OTA TV is free. For a DVR I chose TiVo and that cost me $399 with lifetime service. By not paying Comcrap $200 a month for phone, TV , and broadband I amortized the $399 TiVo cost in four months by paying $90 for phone and broadband and not paying Comcrap $200 every month. After that my total cost for phone (landline or POTS) with unlimited long distance, broadband, and OTA TV with TiVo DVR is $90 a month.

    For you, what are you paying for Xfinity broadband? Add to that the cost of adding cable TV service equal to OTA and the cost of a DVR and that's your total cost. How does that compare to other available options?

    Plus consider that Xfinity has some appealing deals to entice you to add services that disappear in a year and then your bill goes up dramatically.
     
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  4. longrider

    longrider Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    If you have that kind of double play deal I agree it is not worth cutting the cord. Where I am cable is not even offered, I was using DirecTV befoer I went OTA. My internet is via a WISP (Wireless ISP) offering 20 meg for a decent price. In town CenturyLink is getting fairly aggressive with decent DSL (40 meg+) as long you are in an area with a fiber node close enough.
     
  5. kendq

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    My tivo 3 had excellent reception, then I made the mistake of upgrading to the bolt so I could cut the cord and keep 3 TV's by using the 2 minis downstairs and not try to run the antenna signal across the whole house. the bolt is unwatchable and Tivo says its because of the 4 tunner split that weakens the signal. These towers are less than 30 miles away. Thru help on this forum I found it has to do with the SNR multipath obstructions. If my suburban flat land area has these issues, many more will too. then on top of that with their 4 tunners Many can only run 1 TV (because it cant use Moca for the minis). Be ready for a lot of trail period returns
     
  6. chicagobrownblue

    chicagobrownblue Well-Known Member

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    ABC is one network. Hard to imagine it eating 4 tuners.

    If the OP would answer my question, I could make suggestions. If you had specific problems with ABC on an OTA 4-tuner DVR, I could make a suggestion. But, this is all hypothetical.
     
  7. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    I don’t know what the poster meant by “overruns,” but networks scheduling their programming with built-in overruns (extending beyond the half-hour grid) effectively lends to the recording conflicts that result from padding ... so 4 tuners can quickly become effectively just 2.
     
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  8. jedimindtrick

    jedimindtrick New Member

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    Good idea! I'll have to give that a shot. Thanks for the suggestion!
     
  9. TonyD79

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    It was an EXAMPLE of one network chewing up two tuners. I have had conflicts with OTA channels only. You do know that there are six major OTA networks, right?
     
  10. aaronwt

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    I still have a landline. I tried dropping it nine years ago. But came back after less than a year since it's cheaper for me to have the landline.

    If I were to drop my landline my monthly cost on FiOS will go up.
     
  11. just4tivo

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    Network programs often start a minute early and some run a minute late so so 4 tuners do quickly become effectively just 2.

    And that happens often... like a few times a week.
     
  12. TonyD79

    TonyD79 Well-Known Member

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    And even when it doesn’t, it is safer to pad whenever you can to ensure you get the ends of shows.

    TiVo is horrible on not sharing a tuner when programs on the same channel overlap. Other DVRS can and they save tuners that way.
     
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  13. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Not here. I have no padding on my ABC shows and it records everything with nothing being cut off. It starts on time and ends on time.
     
  14. just4tivo

    just4tivo Active Member

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    I envy you because that is not what I see at my location.

    When I set to record exact times I often miss the beginning or end of network shows.
     
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  15. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Again not here. It is extremely rare for me to need to pad a show. All the major networks here start and end on time. Now If you are talking about an overrun for football or something the. That is different.
     
  16. just4tivo

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    TiVo is not intelligent enough to see that you have programs set to record on the same channel in one time slot following the other so it commits two tuners when it should only need one.
     
  17. aaronwt

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    I've seen an issue here on Comcast, but that is over cable. Comcast here is around thirty seconds behind. I can watch something live from home remotely on my cell and I am still ahead of what is being shown on Comcast in my area at my parents and brothers house.
     
  18. just4tivo

    just4tivo Active Member

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    Talking about standard network week to week shows and I'm just telling you what happens at my TiVo Roamio.
     
  19. JoeKustra

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    21 prime time major network 1P. Not one instance of padding. However, The Daily Show normally needs a minute or two at the end. I guess it's an OTA problem.
     
  20. HoTatII

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    That's what Spectrum does with us ...

    We were perfectly satisfied here with Ooma VoIP with premium service for landline combined with our cellphones.

    But unless we bundled our 100/10 internet service with "Spectrum Voice" for ~$75.00 a month. They would raise our internet cost from $49.95/mo. to about the same price.

    So we just use (or more like "waste") the Spectrum Voice line for Faxing. Which we almost never do any more

    Can't wait until AT&T Fiber internet service which the tech/contractors have been crawling all over my neighborhood for the past month installing becomes active.

    Sent from my LG-H932 using Tapatalk
     
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