New TE4 update starting to roll out

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by TiVo_Ted, Apr 24, 2018.

  1. Apr 26, 2018 #41 of 448
    JoeKustra

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    I'm scared. Also, I wonder what it means to post release notes.
     
  2. Apr 26, 2018 #42 of 448
    timbest

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    Help! I tried Hydra and hated it so I followed this thread to downgrade successfully last week - just got my Roamio Tivo working again and recording shows again after losing everything in the downgrade. Now this morning, the Tivo has re-upgraded me to a newer version of Hydra again without my permission! What can I do now?
     
  3. Apr 26, 2018 #43 of 448
    longrider

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    In his case he had installed Hydra and then downgraded back to Encore. With that circumstance I could see his box being on the Hydra list. However if this is correct it could be bad news for everybody who reverted back over the last 6 months
     
  4. Apr 26, 2018 #44 of 448
    jrtroo

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    What is the timing for all of this? Did you drop back recently?
     
  5. Apr 26, 2018 #45 of 448
    krkaufman

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    Yes, that's what I theorized over in his thread, but speculating that the unintended Hydra re-upgrades may only hit boxes that were very recently reverted to Encore, perhaps after the initial list of 5000 random units was generated. Regardless, it's something that @TiVo_Ted needs to be aware of, as a customer was just force-updated to Hydra. Just shouldn't happen.
     
  6. Apr 26, 2018 #46 of 448
    krkaufman

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  7. Apr 26, 2018 #47 of 448
    timbest

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    I downgraded back last weekend and it reloaded Hydra without my permission last night.
     
  8. Apr 27, 2018 #48 of 448
    tim_m

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    I wasn't one of the lucky ones either. Guess i will b e getting it next week.
     
  9. Apr 27, 2018 #49 of 448
    Diana Collins

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    Let's not get carried away. We have one report from a user who DID upgrade to Hydra and then rolled back.
     
  10. Apr 27, 2018 #50 of 448
    JoeKustra

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    True. But there are a few others who have rolled back. I guess we'll know on Tuesday.
     
  11. Apr 27, 2018 #51 of 448
    ManeJon

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    Find it interesting if you look at DTV forums - they are rolling out new client software and many comments are very similar - why fix things that aren't broken? But that isn't the way technology works.
     
  12. Apr 27, 2018 #52 of 448
    krkaufman

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    Heh, I hardly think that post was close to getting “carried away”; pretty much just a statement of fact. (edit: And it was directed at TiVo_Ted, for him to do with as he saw fit.)
     
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  13. Apr 27, 2018 #53 of 448
    humbb

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  14. Apr 27, 2018 #54 of 448
    samccfl99

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    Hydra, the biggest "mistake" Tivo, Inc ever did. Many say there's really nothing much in this update and it took them 4 months. Not many comments in this thread about TE4. Where are these FIVE THOUSAND+ Hydra users???

    Lots of Hydra Haters in here...LOLOLOL

    I want to know why I can't get RC29 on my SERIES4 WITH SKIPMODE ENABLED, LIKE SOME OTHERS DO...PATHETIC!!!!! Yes, sorry, wrong thread...o_O:mad::p:D
     
  15. Apr 27, 2018 #55 of 448
    Craigm

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    I really like Hydra and look forward to the update. I like the ability to see ten channels in the guide at once and for the next two hours. I understand the type will be larger and would like to read the guide without my glasses on in bed.
     
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  16. Apr 27, 2018 #56 of 448
    krkaufman

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    Heh, yeah, the 10 rows in the guide was one of the features I liked in Hydra; but it sounds like the update may have less than 10 rows owing to the larger font. (Honestly, my desire for more rows was very specific... I wanted 9 rows because that's all the OTA broadcast stations we have; so, I'll be OK with losing 1 row and going to just 9. :) The guide would be even more functional, in this use case -- in my opinion -- if it always kept the channels in the same order, top to bottom. With just 9 channels, I don't want the guide constantly changing which channel is listed at the top. The same would be true, I'd think, for anyone with 9 or less Favorite channels when the guide is set to display Favorites.)
     
  17. Apr 27, 2018 #57 of 448
    tim_m

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    My elderly mom will probably like the changes coming to the guide. she has mentioned its harder to read. So eliminating a row to make the type bigger should make her happy.
     
  18. Apr 27, 2018 #58 of 448
    Phil T

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    I was a “tester” with DirecTV and the HS17 rollout in December 2016. Then in October 2017 I was a unwilling tester of the new GUI. In other words I had no choice, the new GUI was pushed to my boxes and no way to revert backwards. The pushes fried 2 of my C41W wireless receivers, yet DirecTV was unwilling to replace them for me and tried to charge me for replacements. That is when I left DirecTV after 14 years and went with TiVO and Hydra.

    The few bumps in the road with Hydra are nothing compared to the lack of communication or listening that AT&T refuses to do with their volunteer testing group. IMO AT&T only purchased DirecTV to get the programming and has ruined a once great service.

    Since November when Hydra was released I have noticed two reboots of my TiVO Bolt VOX and have never missed a recording. With DirecTV is was a daily occurrence and I even went a week where every time I pushed the guide button the box would reboot.

    TiVO went out of its way to allow uses to keep their old experience. Unless they go back on their word, users are not forced to upgrade to Hydra unless they want the VOX boxes, or the new look.
     
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  19. Apr 28, 2018 #59 of 448
    stile99

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    I'm not sure I would go quite THAT far, considering the move from Hydra back to the "old experience" requires a complete wipe. The reason for this is unknown, some have speculated it is technical, perhaps a database issue, while some have speculated it's just an evil-minded way to get people to stay with Hydra. I imagine we'll never know for sure, but as for being a database issue, Hydra plays recordings from a box on the "old experience" just as well as it plays native ones. Regardless of why it would be a bit of a stretch to say TiVo "went out of its way".
     
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  20. Apr 28, 2018 #60 of 448
    southerndoc

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    I really like Hydra and I think it's faster than the old UI.

    My big complaint with Hydra is the show listings won't remember my preference to sort by date (newest on top). It always goes back to sorting by season. Ugh! @TiVo_Ted You guys have gotta fix this very soon!
     

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