New Series3 Update

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by TiVoPony, Feb 12, 2007.

  1. Feb 15, 2007 #321 of 1039
    hookbill

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    I thought you were presenting it as a major issue. Sorry if I didn't get the text of your response correctly.

    I personally wouldn't have brought it up but that's just me. No problem to each his own.
     
  2. Feb 15, 2007 #322 of 1039
    dig_duggler

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    Well, their fixes broke something that wasn't broken before. I would call that less than encouraging and also annoying.
     
  3. Feb 15, 2007 #323 of 1039
    hookbill

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    I wish Pony would come in here and speak to as to whether this is an issue or not and if so if it was addressed. I will say since he or Jerry hasn't said anything I wouldn't get your hopes to high on this one. Still, if it is hope it gets fixed for you.
     
  4. Feb 15, 2007 #324 of 1039
    glennkawesch

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    Cool, thanks for the info.

    Glenn Kawesch
     
  5. Feb 15, 2007 #325 of 1039
    kucharsk

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    Anyone get the update today or are those who will get the update updated by now (after the first scheduled call)? Just curious if I'm wasting time "trying" until next week.
     
  6. Feb 15, 2007 #326 of 1039
    BigFrank

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    Well, I've had 8.1 for a couple days now.

    The Audio-glitch / pixelation still happens occasionally, though its not clear whether its frequency is less than before.
     
  7. Feb 15, 2007 #327 of 1039
    dig_duggler

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    I would say if you can't tell it's probably not fixed. Wishful thinking can do powerful things to observations.
     
  8. Feb 15, 2007 #328 of 1039
    Rucker

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    Actually, it means there IS something to share, but Tivo has chosen not to. Possibly it hasn't been tested well. Or maybe they just don't want to make it available before their own desktop uses it.
     
  9. Feb 15, 2007 #329 of 1039
    Fofer

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    I would say if he's seen it happen more than once or twice, it's probably not fixed.

    ...as can negative thinking!
     
  10. Feb 15, 2007 #330 of 1039
    TallyLaddie

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    Actually, I can get my series 3 to do this. I have yet to experience 8.1 so it is not something that was introduced with 8.1.

    -Ray
    still waiting for 8.1 to appear on my TiVo :rolleyes:
     
  11. Feb 15, 2007 #331 of 1039
    FlippedBit

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    Very disappointing. I wish TiVo would comment here on what they know about this issue. As far as I know, it is a problem unique to the S3 amongst HD DVRs. I haven't heard of the Comcast HD DVR having this problem. I know I never had this problem with my S2 which, since the problem is not confined to HD channels, I would have expect the S2 to demonstrate the issue if it was a cable/signal issue. SCSIRAID did get an admission from TiVo that they found issues with how they handled certain encoding idiosyncracies. Do they still believe that is the case? If it is a signal noise issue, then why does it only bother the S3? I had said, months ago now, that I would wait until the first major release before I really start pushing this issue with TiVo. I will still wait until I get 8.1 but then I'm going to try very hard to get some action on this.
     
  12. Feb 15, 2007 #332 of 1039
    aaronwt

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    I've never had this problem with my three S3 boxes. So why do some people have this problem and some don't?
     
  13. Feb 15, 2007 #333 of 1039
    Toeside

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    The only channel I have pixelation/glitch issues is on FOX, OTA. But this happens on all STB, including the DirecTV HR20 that gets the channel via the MPEG4 feed from the Satellite.

    I still have 8.0.1, BTW.
     
  14. Feb 15, 2007 #334 of 1039
    Ivomir

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    I noticed "pixelation" on Lost HD yesterday. The episode last week had the same problem. The Knights of Prosperity that aired earlier on the same channel had pixelation too. I've seen it also on other HD channels. If you pause the playback it looks like some of the mpeg blocks (ranging from a few to half the screen) have some random noise in them (sorry for the shaky picture):
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    The widescreen commercials during Lost had pixelation, but the fullscreen ones (which I think are in SD) had none.

    If that's what you are experiencing, then no, it is not fixed.

    I don't think it is a signal strength issue, because the news right after Lost were crystal-clear. Probably the there are errors in the stream or the Tivo has trouble decompressing it.

    That said, I will try screwing a terminator resistor on the unused antenna input to see if this makes a difference.
     
  15. Feb 15, 2007 #335 of 1039
    FlippedBit

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    It seems to me there are two possibilities.

    1) Signal noise

    2) Problems with the S3 handling encoding idiosyncracies.

    TiVo admitted that the S3 has problems handling encoding idiosyncracies. If this is true, then I would expect that all S3's in a single service area would have this problem. I'm assuming that there is a single encoding technology employed in a single service area. I don't have any data on this though.

    If it is a noise issue then why isn't it demonstrated on other DVR models or TV's with cable cards? It must either be because it is not a noise issue, or that the S3 is doing a bad job of handling noise, or that other devices are having the problem. So far though, the few posts here where a user viewed the same on an S3 and without the S3, they reported that only the S3 demonstrated the problem.

    If other TV's or DVR's can handle encoding idiosyncracies or noise then, for $800, so should the S3.

    If there is a flaw in my logic or if my list of causes is incomplete, please chime in so I can refine my understanding.
     
  16. Feb 15, 2007 #336 of 1039
    hookbill

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    Link please. :)
     
  17. Feb 15, 2007 #337 of 1039
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    hookbill

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    lombard

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    mpeg-2 is the AV encoding used on all TiVos. mpeg-4 is supposedly supported for playback on the S3. mpeg usually means video to me, but it is really both.

    Disclaimer: Didn't click through and read the linked page...
     
  20. Feb 15, 2007 #340 of 1039
    donnlewis

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    Same exact problem here CP Auth faiure with SA cards (not specific to either tuner). Happen most often when changing channels. VERY frustrating. Also located in Columbis, MD
     

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