New Series3 Update

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by TiVoPony, Feb 12, 2007.

  1. Feb 14, 2007 #261 of 1039

    ADG Allan

    Aug 19, 2003
    New Jersey, USA


    It really isn't that big of a deal guys. Mine was installed yesterday (I had to force the reboot) and I'm still using the TiVo the same way as before :)
  2. Feb 14, 2007 #262 of 1039

    mattn2 New Member

    Mar 23, 2001
    Erie, CO
    You have just met one ... I beg to differ with this.
    Why should I pay my cable co:
    $56.94 (Lowest Digital Package)
    $5.00 (HD package, only has ABC,CBS,NBC,FOX here)
    $1.91 (2nd CableCard Fee - could be more according to posts)
    - $12.79 (my current package that include the QAM in the clear)

    = $51.06 + tax per month to only get the big 4 in HiDef w/ CC????
    == > $600 per year!!!!! for nothing.

    Without the S3, I can't record the HD shows I watch.

    (OTA is only available for FOX and CW here, for at least 18 months until the new Denver LCG Tower goes operational).

    Come on TiVo, FIX THIS ASAP!

    # Matt
  3. Feb 14, 2007 #263 of 1039

    hookbill Feathered Member

    Dec 14, 2001
    Northeast Ohio
    Yeah, I agree even though I haven't got it yet. I don't see myself using it much differently.

    However there have been a couple of times when I've accidentally deleted something and that delete folder would have come in handy. :)
  4. Feb 14, 2007 #264 of 1039

    bmgoodman Member

    Dec 20, 2000
    A Tivo Desktop thing? Boy, am I glad that Tivo released 2.4 late last year as promised! :rolleyes: Surely this is the version that has everything we ever dared to hope for; it might even protect us from meteors. ;)
  5. Feb 14, 2007 #265 of 1039

    ThreeSoFar FourNow...WaitFive

    May 24, 2002


    That's just because it's not really different.

    From what TiVo has said about it, it's a very minimal release. Now granted, they haven't, and apparently won't, tell their customers everything about the release. I think that's ridiculous and short-sighted. But I also think it's par for the course for this company's business decisions. It's amazing they're in business at all.

    So who really knows. Just enjoy it while it lasts.
  6. Feb 14, 2007 #266 of 1039

    dig_duggler Member

    Sep 18, 2002
    Birmingham, AL
    Pony said "So if you don't have it this'll likely have it soon thereafter. Given the relative size of the Series3 population, it won't take us weeks and weeks to get it out to everyone."

    soon thereafter is a vague term. and weeks and weeks in Tivo speak could mean a lot of things. Looking for something more well defined (without holding them to it - just an estimate).

    And the big switch might get thrown next week, but surely they have a better idea of that by now.
  7. Feb 14, 2007 #267 of 1039

    dig_duggler Member

    Sep 18, 2002
    Birmingham, AL

    It's a big deal when you have channels with shows you want to watch that have no audio and this release addresses that issue.
  8. Feb 14, 2007 #268 of 1039

    TexasAg New Member

    Apr 2, 2006
    But he also said "there's always next week's planned throw of the 'big switch'." That tells me they're releasing it to all of the other boxes next week.
  9. Feb 14, 2007 #269 of 1039

    Espo New Member

    Jan 7, 2003
    TiVoPony - any chance this release addresses the Comcast CableCARD problems? Like it's been reported many times in the Comcast section, using Scientific Atlanta cards, one or both cards will loose their auth. for no reason. A reboot then fixes this. However, this continues to happen every few days. This tells us the S3 software has a problem with reading these particular cards, don't you think?
  10. Feb 14, 2007 #270 of 1039
    George Cifranci

    George Cifranci TiVo Bolt 500GB - TE4 UI

    Jan 30, 2003

    And for those (like me) that had the dreaded infinite reboot loop issue which this does appear to fix.
  11. Feb 14, 2007 #271 of 1039

    randywalters AVS Old Timer

    Oct 21, 2003
    El Segundo,...
    Thanks ! I dialed in a few times this morning but the call did last only a few minutes and did nothing, but right before i left for work i dialed in one more time and this time it said it was downloading data (or sumthin like that) and it was still downloading 10 minutes later when i walked out the door.

    Hopefully that means i got the new update waiting for me when i get home, and if so i really hope it fixes the irritating audio dropout > pixelation problem i'm getting 10 times per hour :p
  12. Feb 14, 2007 #272 of 1039

    tomryan New Member

    Sep 9, 2006
    true.. and fios users do get guide data on their tivo, so where does partial support end and official support start?

    I completely understand TIVO's position on this, but it is a murky area.

    I say hats off to tivo for supporting it as much as they do.
  13. Feb 14, 2007 #273 of 1039

    kido New Member

    Aug 17, 2006
    Chicago, IL
    you should double, triple, quadruple check with your cable co whether you have to have a digital package to use cable cards. there is no technical reason why cable cards cannot be used with basic cable. cable cards provide channel mapping and decryption just like a cable co's STB. if they will provide you a HD STB with the basic cable package for only local HD channels, then cable cards would work as well. if they do not allow you to use cable cards, then that is a policy decision on the cable co's part.

    i think people should remember that tivo is not the cable co's best friend. they would rather you rent their equipment to go along with their service so you can buy PPV, VOD, etc. this means you may need to be stern with them to get what you want. maybe threaten to leave them for satellite or fios. if they will not give you cable cards with basic cable ask that a technical supervisor explain why not. in most cases, it seems it is only a policy decision to force people up to a digital tier of service they do not need.
  14. Feb 14, 2007 #274 of 1039

    ewilts Who, me?

    Feb 26, 2002
    Mounds View, MN
    Does this mean that Galleon should be able to be updated to display HD photos?

    What's the ETA (very roughly) for a TiVo Desktop update to allow it?

    Thanks again,
  15. Feb 14, 2007 #275 of 1039

    ADG Allan

    Aug 19, 2003
    New Jersey, USA
    hoobkill - right you are - the "Recently Deleted" folder can be handy

    dig_duggler - ditto - for those with problems this release addresses it can be a big deal (and that includes me, by the way). Among the problems I've been having is the audio dropout issue. And before you ask - so far so good ;)
  16. Feb 14, 2007 #276 of 1039

    ADG Allan

    Aug 19, 2003
    New Jersey, USA
    Just noticed - when the Recently Deleted folder was created it added everything that was deleted for the past couple of weeks (I guess everything that space allowed).
  17. Feb 14, 2007 #277 of 1039

    Fofer Bo55man69

    Oct 29, 2000
    Sweet! I was wondering how that'd be handled.

    Like Suggestions, I suppose the "Recently Deleted" folder could be used as a gauge to see how much free space is remanning... the more items in there, the safer you are from running out of room and shows getting deleted.

    So, what gets removed first... suggestions? or recent deletions?
  18. Feb 14, 2007 #278 of 1039

    moyekj Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2006
    Quick question since I never had a Tivo with this feature (and don't have the 8.1 update yet) - if you have folders turned off does the Recently Deleted folder still show up? I hate the worthless HD folder so have folders turned off not to see it.
  19. Feb 14, 2007 #279 of 1039

    Maeglin New Member

    Sep 27, 2006
    Norcross, GA
    Galleon uses the HME protocol, which is currently limited to 640x480. HMO/Calypso is the protocol that the built-in music and photo apps use, and it's completely different.

    I can personally see it being a combination of something in TiVo Desktop and something in the box. The HMO protocol allows for the client dictating to the server what image size it wants, but the server could be set in its ways about a maximum size to send. The server may be scaling it down to a maximum anticipated size (???x480) if the client doesn't specify to make transfer over the network quicker... if the original image is large enough, that can take a bit of time compared to sending a scaled down version.
  20. Feb 14, 2007 #280 of 1039

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Fishers, IN

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