New Season Pass Needed for Many Programs?

Discussion in 'Season Pass Alerts' started by ntsc525, Aug 30, 2008.

  1. DreadPirateRob

    DreadPirateRob Seriously?

    Nov 11, 2002


    Found this same problem tonight - and discovered it just in time (or else the wife would have killed me). All of my old SPs for Prison Break and Terminator (for me) and Gossip Girl and One Tree Hill (for her) were not showing up the new episodes tonight, even though they picked up the premieres last week. My quick solution was to set up new SPs and delete the old ones, but that's going to be a PITA for 30+ SPs.

    I also noticed that the newly saved programs aren't grouping with the old ones either. The Prison Break I recorded tonight did not group with the premiere from last week.

    Both of my DirecTivos are series 2 (one HDVR2 and one R10), unmodified/unhacked, running software version 6.2-01-2-151 (which according to the nag screen is two years old at this point). I've been reluctant to update due to the reboot problems that were happening last year.

    I'm going to try the edit SP work-around suggested above and see if it shows any difference.
  2. lew

    lew Well-Known Member

    Mar 12, 2002
    Your unit is the equivalent as being hacked if you don't let it make an occasional phone call and as a result you're running very old software.

    I don't think the problem is the units being hacked but rather the fact that the units are running old software.

  3. Hichhiker

    Hichhiker Just me.

    Apr 21, 2002
    There was an issue with the original code I posted where it would place new Season Pass at the bottom of the list instead of above original SP if you have non-series based season passes somewhere in your SP list (I.e. manual recurring recordings or wishlists. I have corrected this - so if you downloaded original version you may want to re-download.

    It is still pretty slow, but at least you can watch TV while doing it. For what it's worth, it passed the "wife test" - she was able to fix all her season passes with no assistance from me (except installing the script and pointing her to it)

    Also, I am guessing in a few weeks the old series IDs will drop off from guide and we will be able to remove the old season passes in a some sort of automated way. Otherwise with all the duplicates I have something like 80+ season passes at the moment - and that is just on ONE tivo. Perhaps I watch too much tv...

  4. Havana Brown

    Havana Brown Ring Turner

    Feb 3, 2005
    You'll need a new season pass for Biggest Loser Family, or whatever it's being called this time. I had a SP for Biggest Loser and it showed it wasn't going to record.
  5. bengalfreak

    bengalfreak Active Member

    Oct 20, 2002


    The Biggest Loser has changed its name the last several seasons. If you had a Biggest Loser season pass you wouldn't have caught the last season which was called Biggest Loser: Couples Edition. The same is true for Survivor, but thanks for the heads up.
  6. Havana Brown

    Havana Brown Ring Turner

    Feb 3, 2005
    Yeah, I went through my SP the other day and I had 2 or 3 of them for Biggest Loser as well as Survivor.
  7. iamcrazy033

    iamcrazy033 New Member

    Dec 27, 2004
    I upgraded from 6.2 to 6.4a. Haven't made a call in forever. I hoped it would fix my SP as well. No luck.

    I ended up copying down my entire SP on paper, then putting on Terminator: SCC (which I missed) via my laptop and proceeded to delete my entire SP. Then redo it.

    I realized as I was doing it that a ton of my SP were effected. Far more than just recently. In other words, programs I thought were off the air over a year ago were showing up as I readded them.

    I recommend as a sort of "spring cleaning" that people do this as well. If you add them in order from top to bottom, it'll place them that way. Pain in the ass, but I think well worth it. Might do it every fall from now on (or until Direct TV gets their heads out of their collective asses).

    One thing to point out, I did check each one (if there were doubles) to see which had more "Upcomming" showings. Also, I got an error code 32 on some shows, and some did not show up at all. Some I expected to not be found, as the next season is a ways off. Some I know were canceled, but I wish still had some repeats on.

    They are the following:

    (34 errors are marked as I recall them)

    Smallville (34)
    Torchwood (not found)
    Boondocks (not found)
    Damages (not found)
    New Amsterdam (not found)
    Eli Stone (not found!?)
    Battlestar Galactica (not found)
    Assy Magee (sp?) (not found)
    Dirt (not found)
    Hell's Kitchen (34)
    Reaper (not found)
    Curb your Enthusiasm (not found)
    ATHF (34)
    Star Trek Enterprise (not found)
    Grounded for Life (not found)
    Squidbillies (not found)
    4400 (not found)
    Rad Girls (not found)
    Wold Series of Pop Culture (not found)
    Back to You (not found??)
    Sarah Silverman (not found??)
    Sealab (not found)
    Harvey Birdman (34)
  8. obriens2

    obriens2 New Member

    Sep 3, 2006
    Great thread...!

    I wanted to note one thing everyone has mentioned. There's a great amount of discussion on New Seasons and how this affects Guide Data. I could understand that we need to setup a new 'Season' for some of these shows, but my problem is bigger than that.

    Existing shows that are in a current season are no longer being recorded. For example, Weeds on Showtime is in the last 2 episodes of the summer season. The SP was working great all of this time but now, in the last week - the program was no longer picked up.

    Just wanted to point out - it's not just 'New Seasons' that seem to have this problem, as even shows currently in play are affected.
  9. Robin

    Robin Impolite arrogant woman

    Dec 6, 2001
    I too noticed that it's not just new seasons. I've been recording Coupling on BBCA and it stopped recording a couple of weeks ago.

    For the new seasons, one way to catch them is to set a non-auto recording WL for season premieres and check it every week. As shows you watch show up, set new WLs.

    The editing trick didn't work for me.

    Thank you for this! Looking into it now.
  10. AbMagFab

    AbMagFab What happened, TiVo?

    Feb 5, 2001
    Have we confirmed this is limited to DirecTV? I think I saw one anomolous post from a Comcast user, but like with ice scating, we can drop the highest and lowest scores.

    Anyone other than DirecTV folks seeing this? I know I'm not (FiOS, S3, THD, S2).
  11. JohnnyO

    JohnnyO Crimper

    Nov 3, 2002
    I'm the odd man out who experienced the problem with a TiVo HD on Comcast. I have two units, and only experienced the problem on one. Everything has been fine (for me) since I made the initial report and corrections.
  12. vegaspl

    vegaspl Tivo'er since '99

    Feb 20, 2001
    West Hills,...
    Add this to my confusion. For Many years, I have had minimal problems in redoing SP's from previous season.

    This year there is an added problem. ( I'm not sure if it has been addressed here?) DTV has eliminated some of the 2 digit HD channels. Example: "83" NBCW; "81" CBSW; "87" ABCW etc.
    The corresponding 3 digit channels (ie 391;393;397) are there, but the problem for me is as follows:

    Most of my previous SP's were designated using the 2 digit channel. Since they no longer exist, the SP's do not record. It seems I have to go back now and redo the SP's using the 3 digit numbers. Especially a problem with all the many SP's on the many DVR's.

    Anyone else experience same?

    Note: this one DVR as example is HR10-250 Series 2 Ver#6.4a
  13. jimp

    jimp Member

    Jan 1, 2005
    BFE, Indiana
    Has anyone with this problem tried using the option to clear the guide data ("clear program information and to do list" under "restart or reset")?

    Before I left DirecTV a month or so ago, I had some problems with my guide data and season passes, and that option fixed it, though it did have to repopulate all of the guide data. Unfortunately, when I did that it also removed some -- but not all -- of my season passes, so it might be a good idea to have them written down or saved somewhere.

    I don't recall when exactly that option showed up, but at the time my DTiVo had recently updated to 6.4a.
  14. JLucPicard

    JLucPicard Active Member

    Jul 8, 2004
    West St....
    Just wanted to toss something in here. I've read through the thread but haven't studied it. ;)

    A lot of the shows people are talking about early on seemed to be on FX, SciFi, Spike, etc. Could this have something to do with the fact that the MPEG4 HD channels and the SD channels both have the same channel # designation? The DirecTiVos won't pick up the MPEG4 channels, but could it be something in the fact that they use the same channel numbers messing with whether the shows in a search, for example, show up with upcoming episodes in one but don't on the "duplicate"?

    Just a thought.
  15. Hichhiker

    Hichhiker Just me.

    Apr 21, 2002
    Can we stop guessing. There is no mystery - the TV Guide data changed the show IDs, which caused the older Tivo software to fail to recognize old and new IDs as the same show even though they have same name. Its been confirmed from several sources now. Newer software dealt with the issue internally, but older software did not - so we have two shows for each one with an ID change.

  16. colin1497

    colin1497 New Member

    Nov 20, 2006
    Not sure newer software dealt with it properly. My S3 running current software stopped recording all my season passes last week. I recreated them all. It was a pain.
  17. dig_duggler

    dig_duggler Member

    Sep 18, 2002
    Birmingham, AL
    It's not just DirectTV. A fair number of people have seen it on Series 3s and Tivo HDs.

    I don't buy the new vs old software argument either. I've been on the latest for awhile and just had this affect me last week.

    Edit: I'm a little suspicious of the new Series ID argument. I didn't have to set new season passes, merely edit the old ones (add a minute to recording/change some option) to get my Series Passes to propagate the To Do list. It would seem that wouldn't work if there were new Series IDs as it would still be using the old ones. Unless 'newer software' dealt with it internally only when manual intervention with a Season Pass occcured, but that is a whole lot of speculation.
  18. bengalfreak

    bengalfreak Active Member

    Oct 20, 2002
  19. Lopey

    Lopey Active Member

    Feb 12, 2004
    There goes my work day. I'll be spending my day updating my season passes
  20. dig_duggler

    dig_duggler Member

    Sep 18, 2002
    Birmingham, AL
    For S3's and HD's, everyone in the other thread sees it as a recent problem. Since those have been updated (on software) for awhile, it doesn't really bear out that it's an old sw vs new sw bug for those units.

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