New program for 1 step TTG downloads, decryption, encoding - kmttg

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  1. Feb 25, 2020 #12581 of 12831
    FrankinMichigan

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    Thanks for explaining those choices.

    I have TiVo Desktop Plus but could not get it to work so I removed it from my test computer. It would see my PRO (the label Living Room was observed) but never showed any shows that were recorded. Complained about network issue. I did apply a patch, twice, even turned off the firewall and Norton just to see if they were the problem but never got past that point (after 3 hours of installing/cleanup/reinstalling) so I starting looking for something better.

    I just went to config and see where I can tell it to delete the intermediate files. Checked it and testing now.

    Cheers!
     
  2. Feb 28, 2020 #12582 of 12831
    HerronScott

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    This would be due to the certificates expiring. There is a thread here where someone has produced updated certificates if you wanted to try it again.

    Scott
     
  3. Feb 28, 2020 #12583 of 12831
    FrankinMichigan

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    I have got both pyTivo and kmttg to work, at least in manual mode (me picking what shows to download). Just wondering if TiVo Desktop Plus would give me anything 'more' than these two programs (auto-downloading, better encoding, more flexibility, etc).

    Thanks!
     
  4. Feb 28, 2020 #12584 of 12831
    mlippert

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    Nope. kmttg provides much more/better functionality that TiVo Desktop. The only thing I'd say you would want from the TiVo Desktop is the "TiVo DirectShow Filter" it installs. That's where the install and partial uninstall comes in.

    From the kmttg wiki kmttg / Wiki / using_kmttg:
     
  5. Feb 28, 2020 #12585 of 12831
    FrankinMichigan

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    OK. Thanks. From what I tried so far both are working to download and copy shows to my laptop for viewing with VLC without issues. For right now until we are back from our next trip, I will manually download the shows with pyTivo (which has been the easier/quicker of the two) and work with kmttg automation when I get back.

    Greatly appreciate everyone's help in bringing me up to speed on using TiVo and supplemental programs to get shows for viewing on my laptop when off the grid.

    Frank
     
  6. Feb 28, 2020 #12586 of 12831
    mattack

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    Except TS downloads often have *glitches* in them... and nowadays TS downloads often are un-openable for me (even in VLC and other apps).. I have not figured out any way to predict if I can open them or not.. I try to download, turn off delete.. if it successfully opens after download, then I delete from the Tivo.

    so do PS downloads whenever possible (any SD channels you record.. and at least for me until recently, the HD versions of OTA channels were still PS... not anymore).
     
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  7. Feb 28, 2020 #12587 of 12831
    mattack

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    Maybe 2 doesn't work, since 2 is already slower than the 30% speedup.. Try 5 or something..

    but yeah, it is somewhat finicky to get it to take, and I've never figured out exactly why it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.. it does seem to be some sort of state machine issue with the Tivo.. (the state machine of reading remote control inputs)
     
  8. Feb 29, 2020 #12588 of 12831
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay TCF Club

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    What does this have anything to do with KMTTG and downloads? Its only for playback and quick mode.
     
  9. Feb 29, 2020 #12589 of 12831
    ej42137

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    kmttg is the only reliable way to enter SPS backdoors.
     
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  10. Feb 29, 2020 #12590 of 12831
    ThAbtO

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    Yes, but the last posts seem to be about speeding up downloads.
     
  11. Feb 29, 2020 #12591 of 12831
    slowbiscuit

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    I have no issues entering codes with the remote while playing a recording. Just have to be reasonably fast enough entering them for stuff like quick play speed. But the only two I use are fast pause clear and quick play speed.
     
  12. Mar 2, 2020 #12592 of 12831
    mattack

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    It has to do with me answering his question, because I originally told him a way to avoid having to download shows JUST to watch faster than realtime.. (which is what I thought he was doing.)

    jeez.

    (BTW, nobody ever answered my kmttg-related question whether there was a way to use it to mark every recording as keep until I delete)
     
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  13. Mar 2, 2020 #12593 of 12831
    lew

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    True but the real question is how to remove commercials and the answer is to use KMTTG option to use tivo skip mode data. Do we care how much human intervention by tivo employees is required?
    I wonder how much adjusting has to be done after tivos automatically detects
     
  14. Mar 2, 2020 #12594 of 12831
    Dan203

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    Even those aren't perfect. Had several shows where the skip data was wrong and it jumped into the show. So I'd still highly recommend you do some sort of verification before cutting instead of just depending 100% on automation.
     
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  15. Mar 2, 2020 #12595 of 12831
    reneg

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    mlippert

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    I'm just supporting what Dan said. I use the skip mode marks whenever possible because they are much closer to all of the commercials than the heuristic methods.
    BUT I always scan and have to adjust the skip mode cut marks, sometimes more than others, and sometimes (rarely) they are very very wrong.
     
  17. Mar 4, 2020 #12597 of 12831
    XBR

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    Since I am using VRD V6 to reencode to MP4, I do not select the QS Fix option; however, a qsfix job that calls VRD is enqueued anyway. According to @Dan203, this is largely superfluous when recoding with VRD. Any idea why the qsfix job is created even though the option is not selected?
     
  18. Mar 4, 2020 #12598 of 12831
    Dan203

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    If kmttg is setting the bitrate manually anyway then it's actually slightly faster to use QSF. If they're using the automatic recode settings then there is a disadvantage to using QSF when recoding. I haven't really used kmttg extensively so I don't know what options it has or exactly how it interacts with VideoReDo.
     
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  19. Mar 4, 2020 #12599 of 12831
    Digital Man

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    I lost all my recordings when the hard drive died in my Bolt+. As I'm setting up the new one, I'd like to investigate back up strategies. I had used kmttg in the past manually to back things up, but of course hadn't done a manual backup in a long time. I'm now looking for a way to automatically back my recordings up to my PC at minimum. What would be super awesome is if i could set it up to delete a recording off my PC automatically when it is deleted off the Tivo. Can kmttg (or anything else you suggest) do this kind of automatic backup?

    Thanks.
     
  20. Mar 4, 2020 #12600 of 12831
    ThAbtO

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    Yes, KMTTG can do this and it is not an actual backup, the shows are usable. After decrypt, they are actually either a MPG or TS file that any video player can play. The passes can be backup and restore from KMTTG.
     

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