New program for 1 step TTG downloads, decryption, encoding - kmttg

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by moyekj, Mar 15, 2008.

  1. May 6, 2019 #12161 of 12439
    ThAbtO

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    There are no other formats to retrieve. What you download is a .Tivo file, which is a Tivo encrypted version of the recording, whether its MPEG2 or MPEG4, When you decrypt with KMTTG, the end resulting file is either .MPG or .TS (MPEG4). The encoding process is not needed unless you want MPEG4, which takes a long while to process, compress.
     
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  2. May 7, 2019 #12162 of 12439
    lindajones1

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    Does anyone know if kmttg can somehow retrieve NON-copy protected OTA shows from a 2013 DirecTV DVR that has TIVO such as the the THR22 (or earlier model)? Or if there's any other creative way to transfer these shows off the DVR?
     
  3. May 7, 2019 #12163 of 12439
    ej42137

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    I don't think the copying feature was ever backported to that generation of TiVos, so copy protection is a moot issue in that case. You can record from the HDMI cable by defeating the copy protection with a splitter, but that can't be discussed in these forums.
     
  4. May 8, 2019 #12164 of 12439
    lindajones1

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    So then, even if I bought a TIVO Bolt now, I could only use kmttg to transfer shows from the Bolt itself. Is that correct?

    In other words, I couldn't use the Bolt in some creative way with kmttg to get shows off of my old DirecTV THR22 DVR. Is that correct?
     
  5. May 9, 2019 #12165 of 12439
    ej42137

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    I don't think the copying feature was ever backported to that generation of TiVos, so copy protection is a moot issue in that case. You can record from the HDMI cable by defeating the copy protection with a splitter, but that can't be discussed in these forums.
     
  6. May 12, 2019 #12166 of 12439
    TheDownloader

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    Thank you both for your quick replies. I am sorry it took me so long to get back to you.



    From what you are saying, there are really no advantages in terms of what I want, which is good quality recordings with no glitches, to doing TS downloads over PS which since I do not ever have TS downloads box checked, I have been doing. I do not care about closed captions, at least I far prefer good video quality to them. If I really wanted the TS downloads from what I have heard I could always re-upload to my Bolt with something like PyTivo/PyTivo Desktop or TiVo Desktop to then pull back down the TS downloads version, unless the original downloads are only one form specific when pulled down, and the TS versus PS is simply different ways to download from the DVR.


    So I just did the stock kmttg installation, nothing else, does that mean that I have gotten no quality improvement or glitch fixing from having the QSFix button clicked because I do not have VideoReDo or DirectShowDump installed,and therefore as mentioned below I wasted more GB and time on downloading runs? Meaning they are the same quality with or without the QSFix button checked?





    Okay, cool, thank you. But there are other programs to decode once I have it on my computer or external hard drives to get the same effect if I ever wanted to encode, correct? Meaning there are other programs I could use, to get the same result once I have the raw .Tivo files down on my computer or hard drives?


    The reason I am asking is, regarding both of your posts and the replies I have made to them above in this post, if so and I can perform the .TiVO to .mpg or .TS (MPEG4) operation once I have the raw .TiVO files downloaded, it means I have essentially wasted runs and a lot of hours and a lot of GB storage space with formats that I didn't need at the moment because I can get them later through the use of other programs to decrypt the raw. Everyone here knows how much storage TiVo recordings take and how quickly even multi TB HDDs can fill up. Because of that, my HDDs have filled up even more quickly because I have been switching between the different settings on the main page of KMTTG with large group of downloads in trying to find the best format and settings to use.

    I am trying to find the most versatile format that gives me the best video quality while not losing any options and for time saving in getting my Bolt cleared off as quickly as possible. From what I have been told here that means downloading the .Tivo raw files and if I have time decrypting them into either .MPG or .TS or both if I have the time and space.
     
  7. May 12, 2019 #12167 of 12439
    mlippert

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    If you don't care about the captions, then I'd suggest downloading as PS, and immediately decrypting to a .mpg file and saving only that.

    There really isn't an extra information in the encrypted .tivo file, it's just encrypted. Better to save the decrypted version, that way you don't have to worry about trying to decrypt it at a later date, and you can play that decrypted file pretty much anywhere, while the encrypted file really is useless if you can't decrypt it later.

    Also you can experiment with different encoding parameters to re-encode that original file into a size/quality file you find acceptable. While your re-encoded files will pretty much always have less "information" than the original, the .mpg original is all the "information" there was on the tivo, you can't get more.
     
  8. May 13, 2019 #12168 of 12439
    Mikeguy

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    TiVo Decoder GUI is an easy-to-use freeware software for decrypting .TiVo files. TiVo Decoder GUI - Just another WordPress site - GmonWeb

    Of course, if you're just transferring shows off and then back to a TiVo box (either right now or later), there's no benefit to decrypting the files either originally with a transfer or once they are on your PC, and you save time--or rather, mostly your PC saves time--by not doing so. But if you are transferring the shows to your PC to watch them there or to transfer to another device such as a smartphone or tablet, there may be an advantage to decrypting the files as part of the original transfer, just to have it done and to save a little time from doing it separately--really, a personal choice and depending on specific circumstances.
     
  9. May 14, 2019 #12169 of 12439
    DashingDave

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    I'm currently trying to get kmttg running for my mom on her MBP running OX 10.9, and the "java quit unexpectedly." pop-up appears any time I try to open the .jar file. She didn't have Java installed, so I downloaded and installed Java 8 - 211. Tried both the v2.4l and v2.4j versions. I can post the console log if needed, but I figured I'd start by seeing if someone knew what the issue might be before uploading all the code.
     
  10. May 25, 2019 #12170 of 12439
    mattack

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    I think this is a Tivo problem and not kmttg.. but I have one Today show episode that I can't download at all -- in full, from pause point, in TS or PS form..
    tdownload_decrypt
    My latest attempt was:

    [java.base/sun.net.www.http.ChunkedInputStream.readAheadBlocking(Unknown Source), java.base/sun.net.www.http.ChunkedInputStream.readAhead(Unknown Source), java.base/sun.net.www.http.ChunkedInputStream.read(Unknown Source), java.base/java.io.FilterInputStream.read(Unknown Source), java.base/sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection$HttpInputStream.read(Unknown Source), java.base/java.io.BufferedInputStream.read1(Unknown Source), java.base/java.io.BufferedInputStream.read(Unknown Source), com.tivo.kmttg.main.http.downloadPipedStream(http.java:341), com.tivo.kmttg.task.tdownload_decrypt$1Thread1.run(tdownload_decrypt.java:168), java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)]

    Download failed to file: /Volumes/Tivo4/kmttgdownloads/Today/09_17_2015(2).ts

    09_17_2015(2).ts: Too many failed downloads, GIVING UP!!

    But the thing is, this prevents any other downloads from that Tivo either.. I seem to have to reboot it. (In the past, I remember there were times the TiVo server got 'confused' but would time out and fix itself after tens of minutes).

    This is almost the same, but this is an attempted download after that of a show that would download fine after I reboot..
    http IO exception for: http://192.168.0.106:80/download/The+Howard+Stern+Interview.TiVo?Container=/NowPlaying&id=515210&Format=video/x-tivo-mpeg-ts

    Server returned HTTP response code: 503 for URL: http://192.168.0.106:80/download/The+Howard+Stern+Interview.TiVo?Container=/NowPlaying&id=515210&Format=video/x-tivo-mpeg-ts

    tivolibre DirectShow compatilibity mode = false

    tdownload_decrypt

    [java.base/java.io.BufferedInputStream.getInIfOpen(Unknown Source), java.base/java.io.BufferedInputStream.read1(Unknown Source), java.base/java.io.BufferedInputStream.read(Unknown Source), com.tivo.kmttg.main.http.downloadPipedStream(http.java:341), com.tivo.kmttg.task.tdownload_decrypt$1Thread1.run(tdownload_decrypt.java:168), java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)]

    Download failed to file: /Volumes/Tivo4/kmttgdownloads/The Howard Stern Interview/05_24_2019.ts

    05_24_2019.ts: Too many failed downloads, GIVING UP!!


    This is all on the TiVo end right? There's nothing kmttg can do about it?

    Oh yeah, I can't download it TO ANOTHER TIVO either (it never starts the transfer).. I can stream watch it that way though.
     
  11. May 26, 2019 #12171 of 12439
    Teeps

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    Last time I experienced this problem downloading programs, java needed updating.
    Another thing you can try, this has worked when no update was needed for me.
    Start playing the program.
    Let it play for about 15 minutes, then try downloading.

    The program could be copy protected, too.
     
  12. May 28, 2019 #12172 of 12439
    mattack

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    no, it's not copy protected.. I really do think it's a problem ON the tivo, since as I said, I can't even transfer TO ANOTHER TIVO..

    but I was hoping maybe the "kmttg itself can't download anything else" might at least partially be a bug in kmttg.
     
  13. May 28, 2019 #12173 of 12439
    ThAbtO

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    Any unusual characters in the title or description?
     
  14. Jun 10, 2019 #12174 of 12439
    wireman121

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    Is there a way to prevent Minis from showing up as tabs?
     
  15. Jun 10, 2019 #12175 of 12439
    minimeh

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    Just spit-balling here, but have you tried Configure->Tivos and delete the Minis? Maybe turn off "Look for Tivos on network" to keep the minis from returning?
     
  16. Jun 10, 2019 #12176 of 12439
    wireman121

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    Well it auto finds all of my minis and then one of them has a tab while the rest don’t. I need the minis on the list so autoskip will work. Just seems odd that only one of the minis has a tab while the rest don’t.


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  17. Jun 10, 2019 #12177 of 12439
    ThAbtO

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    You can still turn off the auto find in KMTTG and keep the tabs you want. You should also have static IP addresses for your network devices so they never change and always work.
     
  18. Jun 11, 2019 #12178 of 12439
    Rawson819

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    I recently downloaded and installed KMTTG with the hopes of using it to transfer my One Passes and Channel list from a Roamio to a replacement Bolt+. I *think* I set things up correctly and was able to successfully download a recording; however, I have not had any luck with loading the channels or the passes. Not wanting to miss recordings, I resorted to using online.tivo.com manage tool to transfer the passes, but I'd love to push the Roamio's channel list to the Bolt. I am able to load the saved the list, but when I click modify I receive "Cannot update a loaded table". Anyone have any advice on what I might be doing wrong?
    Thanks!
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  19. Jun 11, 2019 #12179 of 12439
    worachj

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    The Modify updates the channels on a TiVo and only works on a channels list that waw loaded from a refresh. When you do a Load, KMTTG dosen't know which TiVo the channels are for, so the Modify fails.

    To copy a channel list to your new Bolt:
    • Load or Refresh a channel list.
    • Check or uncheck channels.
    • Click on Copy.
    • Select your Bolt.
     
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  20. Jun 11, 2019 #12180 of 12439
    leiff

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    For shows on my tivo that have the green skip button, will I be able to use kmttg to cut the commercials out of TiVo program without having to use the long scan process since we already have the edit points given by Skip mode? That's the only reason i dont use my video redo program which I do have a license for to cut out my commercials, is because the autoscan process on video redo to locate cut points is slow and often unreliable. Ideally I would like to archive my shows with green skip button from TiVo onto external hard drive with commercials removed, but only if it's more convenient then in the past it has been for me by trying to manage the commercial scan feature. I'm also not interested in converting file structure as I expect to transfer them back to the TiVo to watch another day.
     

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