New program for 1 step TTG downloads, decryption, encoding - kmttg

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  1. Jul 8, 2018 #11901 of 12831
    innocentfreak

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    I am seeing the same search issue mentioned by another poster. This is across all TiVos, Roamios and Bolts, both with the new UI and without. If I go to guide I see the episodes and can schedule there.

    Two shows that seemed to have the issue were The Outpost and Whistleblower. Search picked up the second episode for The Outpost on the 17th, but doesn't find the premiere on the tenth. The OnePass picked up both episodes though. Whistleblower isn't found at all, but airs Friday so the premiere is all that would be in the guide. It is there in the guide and was able to schedule it that way.
     
  2. Jul 8, 2018 #11902 of 12831
    moyekj

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    No problem finding those for me. You probably just need to do a service connection. (Also, if you're running simple search, make sure it's set to "keywords" and not some other type). Here's what my searches find for both:

    Search: Whistleblower - Episode 1
    Fri 07/13/18 08:00 PM on 1002=KCBSDT, Duration = 60 mins, season 1 episode 1, originalAirdate: 2018-07-13
    Cases involving pediatric dental chain Kool Smiles and pharmaceutical giant Bristol-Myers Squibb are featured in the premiere episode of the series, which shares the stories of everyday people who exposed wrongdoing by major corporations.

    Search: The Outpost - One Is the Loneliest Number
    Wed 07/11/18 08:00 PM on 1005=KTLADT, Duration = 60 mins, season 1 episode 1, originalAirdate: 2018-07-10
    In the series premiere, Talon, the lone survivor of the Blackblood race, seeks vengeance on the men who slaughtered her people. Her journey takes her to a desperate Outpost on the edge of the realm, where she finally confronts one of the men who killed he

    Search: The Outpost - Two Heads Are Better Than None
    Tue 07/17/18 09:00 PM on 1005=KTLADT, Duration = 60 mins, season 1 episode 2, originalAirdate: 2018-07-17
    From her mysterious savior, Talon learns deep secrets about herself and her kind. Meanwhile, Gate Marshall Wythers investigates the murder of a Prime Order officer, vowing to execute the killer.
     
  3. Jul 8, 2018 #11903 of 12831
    innocentfreak

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    This is my result for Whistleblower using search.

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    This is for The Outpost. If it was an indexing issue, I would think the second episode wouldn't be there. Also they do show in the guide through KMTTG.

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    This is the result if I do a title search using Search ++.

    The result is consistent across all TiVos.

    I did force a call so I will see if it is any different when I get up, but I had the same issue last weekend on a different show.
     
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  4. Jul 8, 2018 #11904 of 12831
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    BH9244

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    Sorry didn't see your post until now, yes pretty sure yes to both., Has since self resolved.
     
  6. Jul 8, 2018 #11906 of 12831
    BH9244

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    FWIW I tried things again this morning and both Tivo's now return identical results, perhaps some quirk in the program data ?.
     
  7. Jul 8, 2018 #11907 of 12831
    innocentfreak

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    My results didn't change this morning after a service connection.
     
  8. Jul 8, 2018 #11908 of 12831
    moyekj

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    Can't explain why it works for some and not others. As BH9244 posted he was having similar issues which subsequently cleared up, so seems to be account specific and intermittent and/or temporary issue. I still see oddness all the time since the Rovi switch over of guide data where search results show something, and guide data shows something else. For example, for FIFA 2018 World Cup I've seen where search lists the correct team names for a game, but guide data, and ToDo data don't have the correct team names even following a service connect. So there's something different about search data (which I assume is in TiVo database and not local to DVR) and what shows on the DVR itself for ToDo or Guide. It's almost like there are 2 different Rovi databases - one which is TiVo data specific and another which is more generic, and they are not always in sync.

    NOTE: For non streaming entries the kmttg RPC query goes to the TiVo you have selected rather than using your TiVo account and connecting to TiVo server. I assume the DVR then queries TiVo servers for search results, but not exactly sure what the mechanism is. I suspect that iOS and Android apps always query TiVo server data directly rather than going through DVR, but again not sure exactly how everything works.
     
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  9. Jul 8, 2018 #11909 of 12831
    gonzotek

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    FWIW, just this morning, my wife was searching via the TiVo UI (not kmttg) for Whistleblower, and it wasn't coming up in the results. Browsing via the guide out to Friday night allowed us to set a OnePass for it. So I'd pin the issue squarely on TiVo/Rovi.
     
  10. Jul 9, 2018 #11910 of 12831
    mattack

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    I just tried to download the first episode of "The 2000s" from CNNHD, in TS format.. and it's the "audio only" thing.
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  11. Jul 9, 2018 #11911 of 12831
    nyjklein

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    Actually, MRS doesn't work for this either. It seems the autoskip service tries to match the autoskip table entry based on the source TiVo.

    I know think the issue is the autoskip from skipmode does not add the second TiVo's entry because it thinks it's a duplicate. I deleted the autoskip.ini. Then I added a single program on my OTA TiVo. I renamed that autoskip.ini, then added the same program on my cable TiVo. I then appended the two files together with the result below. This then allows autoskip service to work on both TiVos.

    <entry>
    contentId=tivo:ct.387754396
    offerId=tivo: of.ctd.4501500.702.cable.2018-07-08-01-30-00.1800
    offset=0
    tivoName=BoltCable
    title=Living Biblically - Submit to Thy Husband
    7841 260861
    378111 807373
    969134 1458724
    1592057 1680312
    <entry>
    contentId=tivo:ct.387754396
    offerId=tivo: of.ctd.4501500.2-1.terrestrial.2018-07-08-01-30-00.1800
    offset=0
    tivoName=RoamioBasic
    title=Living Biblically - Submit to Thy Husband
    4838 257858
    375141 804403
    966131 1455721
    1589087 1677342
    1788419 1792000

    Jeff
     
  12. Jul 9, 2018 #11912 of 12831
    moyekj

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    It does/should. I just tried it. All my autoskip entries are based on my Roamio. I started autoskip service for my Premiere and then on my Premiere I browsed to a show on my Roamio and played it (using MRS) and verified it autoskips as expected. Note that this has worked for a long time - way before Premiere units even got SkipMode enabled.
     
  13. Jul 9, 2018 #11913 of 12831
    reneg

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    Maybe try running mediainfo on the .tivo version of the downloaded file before it's decrypted. I've seen the "audio only" thing for PS formatted files and rarely when they use descriptive audio.
     
  14. Jul 9, 2018 #11914 of 12831
    RedMan8

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    I record a couple shows that SOMETIMES have AutoSkip data. For the rest of them I use AutoTransfers to download them and mark the commercials for AutoSkip. Is there an option somewhere in the AutoTransfers that can ignore the ones that already have AutoSkip data? Because I already get them all with the "[w]" hotkey.
     
  15. Jul 9, 2018 #11915 of 12831
    reneg

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    Don't think so, but it would be a nice enhancement. For those shows that sometimes have skip data, I just auto transfer them without ad-detect. If it winds up with skip data, I export a .vPrj with 'e' key, otherwise, I run a ad-detect job on the show manually.
     
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  16. Jul 9, 2018 #11916 of 12831
    nyjklein

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    So that MRS scenario works for me too. The key is that the autoskip table entries were created on the PROGRAM SOURCE TiVo.

    All I'm saying is that it appears that the logic when processing "autoskip from skipmode" declares programs with the duplicate "contentId" as a duplicate and won't add that entry to autoskip table. But the logic within the "autoskip service" seems to require a a match on "contentId" as well as something else, perhaps "offerId". So playing the program from the second TiVo that was processed with "Autoskip from skipmode" does not autoskip whether played directly from the second TiVo or through MRS from the first TiVo.

    Jeff
     
  17. Jul 9, 2018 #11917 of 12831
    moyekj

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    When kmttg autoskip service is monitoring activity on the TiVo you are viewing for it is able to find only "offerId" for the show you are playing. So it will scan through your AutoSkip entries looking for matching "offerId" for autoskip.

    The "contentId" is critical as well since it's how the original SKIP data from TiVo database is located. Before kmttg autoskip service even existed, "contentId" was used as the main identifier for autoskip entries which is why it's still the case.
     
  18. Jul 9, 2018 #11918 of 12831
    mattack

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    I forget, is media info only a Windows thing? I'm on OS X..

    and do you remember what pref to turn off so it doesn't delete the interim files? I guess I have to turn off "combine download & decrypt", I remember that one.

    I watched the show, but I'll record another airing to repro again.. (darn, I kept the decrypted file, thought that would be enough.)
     
  19. Jul 9, 2018 #11919 of 12831
    reneg

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    I'm not a Mac person, but mediainfo does seems to be available for the Mac MediaInfo - Download MediaInfo for macOS

    Combine & Decrypt option is in kmttg, File->Configure->Program Options tab. Rather than record again, you might be able to recover the file on the Tivo in the recently deleted folder so you can download it again.
     
  20. Jul 9, 2018 #11920 of 12831
    nyjklein

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    OK. Well that explains the behavior I'm seeing. So if "offerId" is used by the autoskip service, why is "autoskip from skipmode" using only "contentId" as it's uniqueness check and declaring programs with the same "contentId" as a duplicate even when the "offerId" is different?

    Jeff
     

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