New HR20 DVR will be FREE....if you are a 'select' customer

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  1. dswallow

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    I suppose for fun I could hook it up to a satellite dish to see if that happens. Though I think those older receivers did present PSIP data that is broadcast with the ATSC signal.
     
  2. JimSpence

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    Wouldn't the HR10-250 still be able to record OTA and DirecTV SD after MPEG2 HD is turned off?
     
  3. jcricket

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    Yes. That certainly extends the "usable life" of the HR10, although I'm not sure how many HD customers will be happy if there are a bunch of HD channels they can't get. I suspect they will keep the current crop of MPEG2 HD channels online (not many, I know) for quite some time. They'll duplicate any national HD channels on the MPEG4 satellites and only add new ones on those new MPEG4 satellites.

    I can't imagine many HD subscribers being happy knowing that there are even 5 HD channels they can't receive. Hell of an incentive (stick) to switch.
     
  4. newsposter

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    if, for 5 bucks a month I get nothing but an OTA HD tivo, i dont think thats too bad if the HD dvr bites. It would be my excess capacity tivo :)

    talk about being optimistic
     
  5. Lee L

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    This is the poroblem. In my opinion, there is a littel bit of an implied contract in the purchase of equipment. I think it is a very reasonable assumption, on the part of a customer (absent a statement to the contrary from the provider) that when they purchase the receiver that it will work to receive programing that is added in the future. Basically, you are buying a programming delivery system. Now, they want to add new stuff but becasuse they changed things after you made a purchase, you are left out in the cold unless you pay more $ to upgrade.

    This in one advantage in the consumers mind with cable. If they upgrade, just get a new leased box and turn in the old one.
     
  6. newsposter

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    It's almost like satellite is pushing people to cable. even 10/month rental is 120/year = 8 years until you break even with your 1000 dollar hdtivo. And i'll bet it didn't work perfectly for 8 years either.
     
  7. richierich

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    Not to mention that I had a bad hard drive and had to get it replaced because I didn't want to lose settings, etc. and tried to retain recordings but that didn't work. I will just use my 2 HR10-250s as a backup and extra hard drive capacity to record OTA HD programming with maybe one HR20 to use for MPEG-4 HD programming that I can't get via the HR10. You can never get too much hard drive space.
     
  8. MichaelK

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    looks like directv is going lease only which will equal the mirroring fee for SD, HD, and SD DVR's. Examples in their memo dont say if HD DVR's will be $5 also. But even if they double it and go to $10 then it's competetive with cable.

    Looks like Directv doesn't want start up costs to be an issue anymore...
     
  9. jcricket

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    Well, as others have pointed out, this is why Satellite is returning to the lease model, and why I think the standalone Series 3 Tivo and other Home Media Centers will be a hard sell.

    Some of the early adopters here (myself included) would probably pay $500 or more for some super-whiz-bang DVR (terabytes of storage, 4+ tuners, etc.) with all kinds of extra features (HMO, MRV, Internet programming). But I'd bet that 90-95% of people would be satisfied with the DVRs provided for $5-10/month by their provider. Especially when those DVRs are catching up in terms of core functionality (dual tuners, season passes, etc). If cable + satellite cos add-on even a little extra functionality (MRV, HMO, checking weather, stocks, movie times), there aren't many people who would care about whatever else owning your own DVR gets you. Cable, if it had a huge VOD library, could also mitigate a lot of the reason to even care about the DVR portion of your STB.

    Again, I think the CableCard standard is great, and I hope that Microsoft, Tivo and Apple continue to innovate what DVRs can do. If nothing else it means that cable + satellite companies will have to keep up with the features in their own in-house DVRs. It's possible that the whole model will shift and we'll be able to subscribe to an online VOD/content delivery system and having a PC or Mac where all that content gets downloaded will be worthwhile.

    Until then, a dual-tuner HD DVR from D* or Comcast sounds fine to me.
     

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