new directv tivo delayed until "late 2010"

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  1. Sep 1, 2010 #281 of 365
    shibby191

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    Ummmm, the HR2x has had that feature for a couple years now. Just hit the down arrow twice to activate and it works just like Tivo to swap tuners. Only difference is the extra down arrow to activate it.
     
  2. Sep 1, 2010 #282 of 365
    Syzygy

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    You don't get it. With the HR2x, there's no way to discover what's in the background tuner's buffer. You have to select a channel without having that information.
     
  3. Sep 1, 2010 #283 of 365
    whitepelican

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    And, as usual, you overstate DirecTV's case. The "Double Play" feature has been active for almost exactly one year. And as Syzygy pointed out, it's not the same feature as Tivo's dual live buffers, and it's a pain in the ass to have to turn it on all the time.
     
  4. Sep 1, 2010 #284 of 365
    bigpuma

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    How exactly is it a "pain in the ass" to have to turn it on? Push the down arrow twice. Not exactly difficult.
     
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    bigpuma

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    I also have both, I have an HR21, HR22, and an old HR10. Again I understand that in your opinion the old directivos are superior but I just don't agree. In some ways they were better i.e no 50 series limit etc. In several ways I think the HR2x series is better, i.e. much faster prioritzer re-orginization etc. It's all just a matter of opinion.
     
  6. Sep 1, 2010 #286 of 365
    shibby191

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    Sorry, it was in CE for a long time before officially released. I know *I* used it well over a year ago.

    Wow, hitting down arrow a 2nd time...once...is a real pain in the ass. Your thumb just might cramp up doing that. :rolleyes:

    And no, it's not the same feature as Tivo. In fact, each tuner can remember up to 4 independent channels it has previously tuned to making it much more useful during Sunday Ticket for example to bounce around more then 2 games. Very nice. :D
     
  7. Sep 1, 2010 #287 of 365
    shibby191

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    Ummmm, ok. :confused: And having some random channel in the background tuner is helpful how?

    Gee, you turn it on, flip the tuner, tune to the other game and swap between the two with one button push to your hearts content. Which is how it works on a Tivo. Let's not make something crazy out of nothing here.

    Oh I forgot. Everything Tivo does is better then anything else on the planet. My apologies. ;)
     
  8. Sep 2, 2010 #288 of 365
    Matt L

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    Yup, and the HR2x buffer is 3 times as longs as the TiVo buffer.... Real shortcoming there.

    And yes, the dual buffer has been around a lot longer than a year - you just had to know how to get it.
     
  9. Sep 2, 2010 #289 of 365
    Rainy Dave

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    I don't spend a whole lot of time watching live tv, so the dual buffer doesn't get used much. :shrug:
     
  10. Sep 2, 2010 #290 of 365
    Syzygy

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    I notice the D* fanboys are as quiet as little mice about my list of search bugs/deficiencies.

    (On DBSTalk, the best riposte they've come up with is that they're happy to see D* increasing their PPV/VOD income by irritating all users — themselves included.)
     
  11. Sep 2, 2010 #291 of 365
    whitepelican

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    And you had to be willing to risk losing all your recordings and settings by running "High Risk" beta software.
     
  12. Sep 2, 2010 #292 of 365
    shibby191

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    Well, search has issues for some people. Is that what you want to hear? Then again I think Windows Media Center is just as good or better then both in many cases. ;)

    But it's like a lot of these things. Some people find Tivo search better, others find DirecTV better. Especially with search/wishlists it all comes down to how you use it. Same with many other features when you compare them.
     
  13. Sep 2, 2010 #293 of 365
    shibby191

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    Either way does it really matter? Fact is that DirecTV has had the dual buffer feature for quite some time and in many ways it's actually better or has more features then Tivo's version. The only downside is that you have to activate it and that is only one extra press of the button, once, to do it so not really a big deal.
     
  14. Sep 2, 2010 #294 of 365
    Cudahy

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    I can only assume that DirecTV still doesn't have an alphabetical search with subcategories because of a Tivo patent. Trying to use the "smart search" is mindbogling.
     
  15. Sep 2, 2010 #295 of 365
    whitepelican

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    And in many ways it is worse and has fewer features.
     
  16. Sep 2, 2010 #296 of 365
    shibby191

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    Isn't that a given? Like every other feature?

    The only difference in dual tuners on Tivo's side that I can think of is that it's on all the time. Except in some very specific cases that really doesn't matter. So yes, if that is a key feature of yours (to have something random on the other tuner at all times) then yea, Tivo has a feature that DirecTV doesn't. But maybe for someone else having dual 90 minute buffers vs. 30 minute buffers trumps having random content on the background tuner all the time. To each his own. There is no "correct" answer here.
     
  17. Sep 3, 2010 #297 of 365
    samo

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    I'll bite. No reply to your list because it is completely useless and ridiculous comments.
    Yours maybe, but not my. I love to know what is available on PPV and VOD. Your time is so valuable that you can not afford to spent a millisecond it take to scroll down grayed line and yet you can not afford to pay for PPV or VOD so they have no use to you?
    So you would rather have them identified by name and then look up the number to switch to the channel you want? I don't care what a channel name is as long as it has a program I want to watch.
    They are very well documented on DBStalk. And they are very powerful tool for people who comprehend a meaning of "and" and "or". Tivo had the skip feature undocumented for years. The only place to find about this feature was TC. So what? Did it make it difficult to use because of that?

    You must be kidding! Why in a world you would want to type a keywords longer than 50 character? It would take you longer to type extra characters than to scroll past few extra lines you may get with shorter keywords.
    They call it recent for the reason. You wouldn't expect recent search to show something that you searched for two years ago.
    Never happened to me, but I guess if you search for something that doesn't exist ...
    What is your definition of often? Once in a blue moon? Prove it. Provide a recent search that doesn't find all matches and I'll believe you.
    It does not freeze, but it may take a second or two to respond
    And what do you want it to do if it matches nothing? Use the backspace if you made a typo.
    Again explain "often". Make specific example that could be verified.
    Bottom line, your list is bunch of nuisance. If you want people to respond, get your head out of the sand and complain about something that is a real problem.
     
  18. Sep 3, 2010 #298 of 365
    Syzygy

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    Gotcha! I guess you couldn't leave the cheese alone. ;) "No reply," followed by 11 paragraphs of protest?

    I believe an unbiased reader will find that the real "nuisance" is your list of denials and/or minimizations of D*'s search deficiencies (although it is sorta funny).
     
  19. Sep 3, 2010 #299 of 365
    joed32

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    Sometimes smart search fails to find something but when I use the guide to look for it I find it. Doesn't happen every day but about once a week. Also I do miss the wish list feature. While I do think that Syzygy's lists are mostly just nitpicking, some of his complaints are valid.
    I still prefer smart search to Tivos search feature, but would love to have wish lists and undelete added to the HR series. I would only go back to Tivo if the HRs were no longer available.
     
  20. Sep 3, 2010 #300 of 365
    sjberra

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    why bother - some of those you list are personal preferences andnot deficiences. Not worht the powder and shot required to debunk them
     

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