new directv tivo delayed until "late 2010"

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by tivoknucklehead, Apr 16, 2010.

  1. Patferr

    Patferr New Member

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    BOOORRRRRRIIIIIINNNNNNNG......this guy could put any insomniac to sleep within seconds.:eek::eek::eek:
     
  2. sjberra

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    As soon as the HDPC-20 shows up the tivo unit will. Oh wait, they are both blue smoke and mirrors, at least there where photos of actual units and of those showing it working, unlike the vaporware from Tivo

    http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/09/directv-suspends-development-on-hdpc-20-tuner/

    http://hd.engadget.com/2008/11/19/the-media-center-directv-hdpc-20-caught-in-action/
     
  3. sjberra

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    Actually yes the HDPC-20 DID see the light of day

    http://hd.engadget.com/2008/11/19/the-media-center-directv-hdpc-20-caught-in-action/

    it just never made it to the retail market, where are the photos of the new direct tivo unit?
     
  4. sjberra

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    at least it was a physical box and not a pipe dream like some other products we can mention at the moment - can I year 1st qtr 2012 for a tivo based unit, works on the time line - werer not the cable boxs 4 ot 5 years late?
     
  5. solofara

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  6. sluciani

    sluciani TiVowner Since '99

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    Yesterday, Tom Rogers again mentioned end of year for the new DirecTiVo in the analyst call. He also mentioned that Technicolor (formerly Thomson) is making the box. I believe they make all the "-100" models for DirecTV.
     
  7. davezatz

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    I think it's quite possible release could slip into 2011... Even Tom Rogers left the door open yesterday during the Q&A:

    "it’s something that we hope to be able to push out late this year."
     
  8. sluciani

    sluciani TiVowner Since '99

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    Thanks for posting that. I didn't see that he back-pedaled a bit afterwards. I was basing my post on his earlier statement: "On top of all this notable momentum in the U.S., our plan remains to launch DIRECTV by year end [...]"

    Thought as someone on another forum noted, he could have been reading from last year's notes. :)
     
  9. HiDefGator

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    "we hope to push it out late this year"

    I don't think he could have been more clear that it will not be this year.
     
  10. llarch

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    Agreed. That's executive speak for "no way in hell will it be out this year". He even had a Freudian slip using the term "push it" which usually means to slip your schedule. :rolleyes:
     
  11. TyroneShoes

    TyroneShoes HD evangelist

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    Now you're just being silly. While I agree that odds for it this year are slim, the quote was not clear at all regarding time frame, in fact it was significantly ambiguous. "We will push it out late this year" could not be more clear. "We will NOT push it out this year" could not be more clear. But neither of those were actually said. What was actually said was about as clear as mud.
     
  12. plazman30

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    According the DirectTV customer service (which should be taken with a grain of salt...), DirectTV is waiting for the outcome of the Dish Network/Tivo lawsuit before they decide if they're even going to proceed with Tivo based DVRs.

    Needless to say I called Verizon after that, and the FIOS tech will be out on October 1st to install FIOS TV with a cable card into my new Tivo I am about to purchase.
     
  13. litzdog911

    litzdog911 TechKnow Guide

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    Or something less than a grain of salt. Tivo and DirecTV have already resolved their DVR patent issues.
     
  14. Enrique

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    There never was a patent issue. They both signed a do-not-sue clause in a contract extension sometime ago.
     
  15. litzdog911

    litzdog911 TechKnow Guide

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    Guess that's what I meant to say :)
    At any rate, there are no legal issues blocking DirecTV and Tivo's future HD DirecTV/Tivo DVR.
     
  16. plazman30

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    I'm sure there are no patent issues now. But I tend to think as part of any kind of no-sue clause, DirectTV agreed to offer a Tivo box. If the review that Dish was just granted somehow invalidates Tivo's patent, then DirectTV really has no need to go forward with a Tivo based DVR, now do they?

    Tivos UI is so far superior to all the others out there, I don't understand why everyone just doesn't either use their interface on their DVR or simply give you a Tivo with cablecards in it as your DVR. RCN just gives you a Tivo is you ask for it as a DVR.

    At least Verizon will give me a CableCard and let me use a Tivo. I understand that DirectTV can't use cable cards and a proprietary DVR is needed.

    I didn't go high def until October 2008, because the family loved the Tivo so much and DTV promised us a Tivo based DVR in the "first half of 2009". Well here it is, the second half of 2010 and still no Tivo. My contract is up at the end of September, and I really don't want to wait anymore. Plus the FIOS bundle is going to save me $70 a month, and I don't have to go with Comcast.
     
  17. shibby191

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    Their new contract renewal included the renewal of the no-sue clause that they have had forever *and* included Tivo building a new HD DVR for DirecTV. The Dish thing has *nothing* to do with Tivo and DirecTV's agreement. If DirecTV up and decided not to do the new Tivo box they could, but they would pay millions in breaking the contract fees, open themselves up to being sued for breach of contract and also very possibly nullify the whole contract which would include the no-sue clause. Why in the world would DirecTV do that?
     
  18. bigpuma

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    First of all I don't agree that TiVo's UI is superior to DirecTV's DVR. I have used both and I think they are about equal. I like some things about TiVo better and some things about the DirecTV DVR better. It is a matter of opinion.

    Second there are many factors as to why someone might choose TiVo with Cable/FIOS vs. DirecTV with their DVR. Cost is part of it, Cable choices is another. I don't have the option to go with FIOS or ATT Uverse. My only other choice is DISH or Charter. Charter has far fewer HD channels in my area. For me the choice is easy but I am interested in seeing the new TiVo for DirecTV if it ever materializes.
     
  19. Sep 1, 2010 #279 of 365
    plazman30

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    I have the HR-22 in the living room and the Tivo SD DVR in the basement. Both my wife and I feel that the Tivo UI is better. We actually really wish we had a HD Tivo box from DirectTV every time we turn on the TV in the basement.

    The one thing I love about the Tivo is the ability to hop between tuners. A killer feature for me.
     
  20. Sep 1, 2010 #280 of 365
    Syzygy

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    True dat.

    But the one thing I hate about the HR2x is the way it searches. Here are the search problems of which I'm aware:

    • Search results include all channels: VOD shows, PPV channels, and all the channels you can't get. Although the titles are grayed for MOST of the channels you can't get, the useless entries still waste the user's time.
    • Searches always produce lists that identify channels only by number.
    • Boolean expressions for searching remain undocumented and difficult to use.
    • Keyword searches are limited to 50 characters, and the TTITLE and CCHAN operators are unnecessarily long.
    • The list of Recent Searches is limited to 25, so you must frequently recreate them.
    • Smart Search frequently fails to find any matches at all.
    • Searching often fails to find all matches that are in the Guide, even missing shows that are on in the next 24 hours — no matter that there are 11 days' worth of Guide data.
    • Search's incremental matching often freezes, requiring the entry of an additional character to make it respond to the last one.
    • Search's incremental matching always clears the list of results if you enter an extra character that matches nothing.
    • Often the first item in the list of Smart Search results is discarded each time you select any item in order to explore it.
     

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