New BOLT

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by JWadle, Oct 8, 2016.

  1. Oct 8, 2016 #1 of 15
    JWadle

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    I purchased a 500GB BOLT last May (2016). Does anyone know if the new BOLT that was just introduced along with the BOLT+ is any different from the one I have (e.g. fast processor, etc.). I know its available in eitehr 500GB or 1TB, but I wondered if anything else has been upgraded.

    Also, are any of the new BOLTs available with lifetime service included?

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  2. Oct 8, 2016 #2 of 15
    thyname

    thyname Well-Known Member

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    There is no new Bolt introduced with Bolt+. The one you got probably came with one year of service included, then they changed the pricing to not include the one year, but it is the same device. Just pricing changed and the outer box color from black to white.

    There are no bolts with all-in included.
     
  3. Oct 8, 2016 #3 of 15
    kgus

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    The only difference is the bolt only has 4 Tunners whale the Bolt + has 6 Tunners


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  4. Oct 8, 2016 #4 of 15
    kgus

    kgus New Member

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    You can order the Bolt with lifetime which is called All included I believe On Tivos website when you order your Bolt or Bolt + I just saw it on there the other day


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  5. krkaufman

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    The new BOLT+, black, comes with a 3TB hard drive and has 6 CableCARD-only tuners (i.e. no ability to record OTA).

    The original BOLT model, white, now comes with 500GB or 1TB of storage, and 4 tuners that can record OTA or CableCARD.
     
  6. Sparky1234

    Sparky1234 Well-Known Member

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    Does the Bolt+ 6 channel work off just 1 cable card?
     
  7. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Yes. Just like the Roamio Pro.
     
  8. gdog2004

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    seems like the new Bolt+ is a downgrade from the original Bolt.
    Not being able to record OTA is a major omission IMO. You would at least like to have the option to cut the cord down the road.
     
  9. lessd

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    The Bolt + is to replace the Roamio Plus and Roamio Pro, OTA is not possible on those two Roamio models, if you want OTA get the Roamio 4 tuner or Bolt original, both have only 4 tuners.
     
  10. krkaufman

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    Eh, for many it is considered a necessary trade-off to get 6 CableCARD tuners, same as in the Roamio line. I'd think it's a big upgrade for cable subscribers over the BOLT.

    Personally, not being a 4K person, I generally view the BOLT+ as a downgrade from the Roamio Plus/Pro, owing to the hard drive limitations and more limited mobile streaming. If TiVo were doing more on the app front (e.g. better 4K support, more pre-loaded apps, more apps, more reliable OnePass data) that would improve the BOLT value, it might be a worthwhile upgrade (or sidegrade). As for the BOLT, I considered it an upgrade to the basic Roamio, simply because of the built-in mobile streaming, Gigabit Ethernet and MoCA capability, on top of the 4K support, pre-loaded Netflix, etc. (I don't consider the hard drive issue as severe on the 4-tuner model, assuming a different user requirement.)
     
  11. atmuscarella

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    This is now standard for TiVo base unit OTA or Cable, upgraded unit Cable only:

    Premiere: 2 tuners OTA & Cable
    Premiere 4: 4 Tuners Cable only

    Roamio: 4 tuners OTA or Cable
    Roamio Plus/Pro: 6 tuners Cable only

    Bolt: 4 tuners OTA or Cable
    Bolt +: 6 tuners Cable only

    See the pattern? Also the upgraded units end up being the same units that TiVo supplies to their MSO customers - funny how it works that way.
     
  12. thyname

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    To add to what the others pointed out, there is currently no 6-tuner ATSC chip in production. None. So, since Tivo wanted to have a six tuner device (Bolt+), had to be cable only. Obviously if you want the flexibility of OTA and cable, you would have to "resign" to a 4-tuner Bolt.
     
  13. gdog2004

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    I hear you guys. I guess I just don't care about 6 tuners as I only have a family of 4, and we generally are never watching TV all at the same time independently.
    What is the "hard drive issue" you are all referring to on the bolts ? The fact that its a 2.5" drive ? Not a big deal if thats the case. I saw a 3TB 2.5 inch drive for like 160.00. Unless its something else ?
     
  14. krkaufman

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    That use model would mostly apply to live TV viewing. Our need for additional tuners is to have the flexibility to record content we *might* want to watch, but also to ensure we get entire episodes using pre- and post-padding. Once you start padding recordings, the tuners get used-up pretty fast.


    Yes, that -- and it's primarily a DIY upgrader concern: the stock BOLT drives are in line with the stock Roamio OTA drives, and the new BOLT+ stock drive matches the Roamio Pro. But if looking at a DIY upgrade, the 2.5" drives will cost more for equivalent capacities, and the maximum drive size is much lower for 2.5" drives -- though some have implemented innovative workarounds to address that concern.
     
  15. HarperVision

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    There very well may be an option to have OTA on a cable only, 6 tuner TiVo in the not too distant future.

    The forthcoming TiVo Mantis network tuner may be able to hookup to an antenna with its ota tuners and supply that via your network to your cable only TiVo.

    Of course this is all speculation at this point, but it's very possible given it's known specs so far.
     

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