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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Dan203, Sep 23, 2017.
Unknown. It's no longer on my account.
It's not listed on the Inactive tab?
Nope. Gone away.
Update. Sorry, it's still there. I never noticed the Inactive link before. It does say that "This device can be reactivated".
I stand corrected. Doesn't make any sense Tivo would activated a device that old.
Sorry to be beating a dead horse, but was your Premiere "deactivated" as part of Tivos promotion or did you simply cancel the subscription on it?
I agree, except that TiVo hasn't announced a new policy.
I called to kill it. I still have a 746500, two basic Roamio units (All In) and four Mini. I just use the Premiere for testing stuff.
Up until about a year ago you could have activated a 17 year old series 1 Tivo. They'll stop updating a platform long before they end new activations.
But that wasn't part of the upgrade promotion was it? If not, then TiVo won't permanently deactivate it. But in the last upgrade, and it seems in this one too, the Premiere will be permanently deactivated. These upgrades are both about getting people to pay a lot of money to buy new boxes and to EOL older TiVo platforms, but outside the promotion, TiVo is not prepared to kill all the Premieres that people deactivate outside of a promotion just yet. I love my S3's, but I fear the bell tolls for them, too.
BTW, FWIW, I would have seriously considered upgrading my Premieres, but the buy in price for the Bolts (paying for the new box) was way too expensive. The add $100 bucks (really one dollar less at $99), the total price was just WAY WAY TOO EXPENSIVE for a company that seems to be leaving retail. I just felt that for that much money, even if does not completely kill all retail boxes and kisses everyone goodbye in as long as 3 years, that is not long enough for such huge investments to replace not just ONE, but even TWO of the Premiers that are part of my system.
I used the same logic in my decision not to upgrade my Premieres.
I used a series 3 TiVo TCN about a year ago to upgrade to a Roamio Pro. The series 3 is still listed on my TiVo account as active and updates too but I can't use it.
The difference is that they stopped allowing any activations of S3's in general so any S3 without lifetime will show that you can't activate it if service is stopped. For Premiere's this isn't the case (yet) so the unknown is whether they are going to put these Premiere in some special group that prevents them from being activated again.
If Premieres are "killed" that could mean the end of TiVo as we know it.
Bolt+ is still out of stock. What's going on there? Opinions?
Why? Tivo knows how many Premieres are being used and therefore the impact of “killing” them.
Re: Bolt+ out of stock - IMO, nothing more than TiVo underestimating the demand.
Why are people assuming that "deactivate" just automatically has to mean a permanent deactivation rather than simply removing the current lifetime subscription. What did Tivo ever say that make's someone believe that?
Tivo is not going to have a random mix of subscribable and unsubscribable Premieres out in the wild. That's just a ridiculously asinine idea. But go ahead and keep believing it if it makes you feel happy or superior or whatever.
Well, I decided to call Tivo regarding to this latest Bolt/Premiere promotion. For what it's worth I specifically asked if the Premiere units used in the exchange were permanently going to be "deactivated" or that if given or sold to another owner, they would be allowed to "re-activate" it or purchase a subscription for it. The CSR I spoke to pulled up my account and looked at the older Premiere unit I had "traded in" and said that this Premiere unit was "not eligible to be re-activated". I questioned if this was something that he was certain of and not just guessing, he said no, it is in their guidelines.
Don't know if I would bet my life on the word of any one Tivo CSR but this is atleast coming from a representative of Tivo.
Others who are uncertain, please feel free to call, although Tivo may want to check your account to see if you were involved or used this promotion.
Certainly possible that Bolt+ models are out of stock because they're putting Hydra on a new batch and awaiting official launch.
Good detective work. Hopefully those who planned on selling their Premieres will take heed.
Open a new Tivo account with a different email address and call Tivo to add the Premiere to that account. If Tivo moves the premiere to a new account, I think they would be contractually forbidden to deactivate it or remove the lifetime service.
An interesting observation and possibility.