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Netgear NAS and Bolt

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by stevenm11, Dec 12, 2015.

  1. scoombs

    scoombs Member

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    I happened to notice yesterday that I can now browse the NAS from my Bolt as well. Must have been snuck in the last update. Thank you Tivo!!!
     
  2. dianebrat

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    Confirming, 2.0.7.2 restored miniDLNA and the Netgear ReadyNAS can now backup and play from the NAS.
     
  3. FiosUser

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    Wonderful news!

    However, my Bolt+ isn't able to see the ReadyNAS Ultra.

    I have:
    - Activated the Bolt+ in ReadyNAS using the correct media key (My Roamio boxes can see the NAS)
    - Restarted Bolt+ through help menu and by unplugging
    - Verified I have 20.7.2 TiVo Software on the Bolt+
    - Have latest firmware on ReadyNAS Ultra
    - Had Bolt+ connect to TiVo Service

    I'm thinking there is a step I missed or something that allows the Bolt+ to see network devices (but the Bolt+ can see my other Roamios and HDXL).
     
  4. FiosUser

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    I've found my ReadyNAS front view is marking the Bolt+ as deactivated some time later when I open the TiVo services page.

    After putting in my media access key and pressing Activate, it saves as active. Later (hour or so) I return and the screen shows as if I never added my media access key and it is not active.
     
  5. lessd

    lessd Well-Known Member

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    My Bolt (29.7.2 RC24) still can't see my miniDNLA on my Netgear router external drive as both my Roamios still can.
     
  6. FiosUser

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    Anyone else have Bolt seeing ReadyNAS?

    My ReadyNAS finally keeps my Bolt Media Access Key activated, but the Bolt doesn't show the ReadyNAS in the list.

    Wondering if the latest 20.7.2 had the fix for all Bolts or a certain build of them.
     
  7. dianebrat

    dianebrat wait.. I did what? TCF Club

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    Early 2016 Bolt and 2017 Bolt+ both see and are seen by the NAS fine.
    I know this sounds dumb, but the Netgear web interface has issues rendering in some browsers, and the scroll bars when you have multiple tivos it can't display can go away, have you tried different browsers to manage it?
     
  8. FiosUser

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    I have always used Safari with ReadyNAS but will try firefox in case.
     
  9. kcejo

    kcejo New Member

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    I'm pretty new to the Tivo world since I bought my 500GB Bolt in June and am now finding that I could use more storage. I've been reading through the threads and looking at all my options and am now trying to determine if something like this would be my best solution. Are there certain NAS devices that will work with Tivo and others that won't? Sorry for my lack of knowledge here, I'm trying to catch up but there's a lot of info to digest.

    I asked Tivo today if there were any options for plugging a storage device into my network and using it and, of course, they said "No". Imagine my surprise, then, when I found the Netgear ReadyNAS info on THEIR website! Could anyone tell me if something like this would be capable of interfacing with my Bolt:
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0047FL85U

    It's similar to their old Western Digital expanders, but network connectable. 3TB would be great to enable me to offload some shows and be able to watch them later. I know I can replace my current 500GB hard drive, but I really hate to take the risk of voiding the extended 2-year warranty that I bought. So, if it really were that simple, I'd jump at this. If this won't work, could someone please give me some basic requirements that I need to look for.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  10. ej42137

    ej42137 Well-Known Member

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    ReadyNAS works with TiVo because it runs a program similar to TiVo Desktop or pyTiVo which transfers recordings back and forth, the NAS in your post won't run that program. I don't know of another NAS that has similar builtin functionality as the ReadyNAS, but you can get the same effect by running kmttg and/or pyTiVo on your PC and recordings to be deposited on the NAS from them.

    None of this will be as simple or reliable as you would want. I think your best option is to drop in a 3 TB HD before the one you have gets too full, but then I also think extended warranties are a foolish waste of money.
     
  11. idksmy

    idksmy Active Member TCF Club

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    OP: Replacing the internal drive is that simple. There are plenty of YT videos that show you what to do.
     
  12. dianebrat

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    It's also worth noting that until 20.7.2 the Bolt line was not supported via the ReadyNAS line and both Tivo and Netgear said "tough luck"
     
  13. blackngold75

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    @kcejo Keep in mind that although the ReadyNAS works with TiVo, it is not as easy as having your recordings sitting on your TiVo (or another TiVo on your network). With the ReadyNas, you will first have to copy the recording to your TiVo (whereas you can Play/Stream it from your local TiVo/other TiVo on your network).

    I just received my Bolt a couple of weeks ago and it is working with my ReadyNAS - it's nice to be able to automatically archive recordings. However, I already know that at some point soon I will be upgrading my 500GB Bolt hard drive to something larger. I'm also going to need to up the disk sizes in my ReadyNAS - anyone remember when 2TB used to be a lot of space? :rolleyes:
     
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  14. dianebrat

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    Yes but the ReadyNAS transfers can start playing while they're transferring and if your network is fast enough you can probably get it transferred while watching, that's what I do.

    I think my current ReadyNAS has 4x3TB so I'm good for a while with 9TB of storage.
     
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  15. kcejo

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    Yeah, my 500GB drive is already around 70-80% full and that's after I've deleted almost an entire 20-hour PBS documentary series (why does someone want to record it if they then don't want to watch it???) and dumped a few other things onto my PC with Tivo Desktop and PyTivo. I haven't yet figured out how to return those shows back onto the Bolt, but that's an issue for another day.

    Ideally, I would replace the hard drive (or find a cheap 4-tuner Premier or Roamio that I could add to the system) AND get a NAS for back-up. It looks to me like the WD 2TB drive or 3TB drive that are the standard ones in the Bolts is a good choice for reliability. Seems like I've heard bad things here about the Seagates and even the Toshibas might have some issues.

    So, is the Netgear brand of ReadyNAS the only system that works with Tivo? If so, are there any particular models that are recommended? I see quite a few options out there on Amazon.

    Thanks for all the info.
     
  16. kcejo

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    Okay, looking at the Netgear website, it looks like the 212 and 214 models are what I would want. Is there any particular recommendations for the drives that would be best to put into the chassis?

    And, idksmy, I know that replacing the hard drive is simple - I've got a really old programming degree and have been messing around in computers since the days when I was installing IRMA cards for all the people in my workgroup because they didn't want to wait for the IT people to get to them :) I was trying to find out if getting an external storage device installed on my Tivo system was simple. Sounds like Tivo's pretty particular with that. And my main problem with upgrading the hard drive is making sure the bigger replacement drive isn't going to cause me problems. I can probably do okay with off-loading some shows to external storage and, if that doesn't really work for me, then I'll upgrade the drive. Having the external storage as an additional option isn't really a bad thing to have.

    So, back to what people have used that works well. I'd really like to hear what models of Netgear's ReadyNAS are working well and what brand drives play best with Tivo.
    Thanks.
     
  17. jth tv

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    I am currently mulling over buying a 212. Not that I am planning on using Hydra but I did notice this:

    "FYI: Can't transfer anymore from ReadyNAS."
    TiVo Hydra/Gen4 User Interface reviews and comments thread

    Something to consider. I'll probably wait until CyberMonday to see if there are any sales on the 212.
     
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  18. dianebrat

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    I'll have to try this, my ReadyNAS shows as available on my Hydra unit.
     
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  19. Sparky1234

    Sparky1234 Totally

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    212?
     
  20. jcthorne

    jcthorne Well-Known Member

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    Please let us know what you see. This is the first and so far only report of ANY path to outside video content from within Hydra.
     

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