Netflix 100 episode limit

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by subarr, Apr 4, 2011.

  1. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    You are paying for use of the app. If you stop paying the app is no longer functional. Tivo has never sold me "guide service and code updates". Tivo sells the TIVO SERVICE. Tivo has decided to make the Netflix app a part of the Tivo service.

    The fact that there are multiple threads regarding bugs in a 5 year old app says a lot about the Tivo product. If they were selling me "code updates" as you mentioned, the argument would be the same. It's been FIVE YEARS. Where is the update?
     
  2. bensonr2

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    Yeah but the Tivo monthly fee has gone up substantially over the last few years. I've only been a Tivo user less then a year so I have to pay 20 a month for serveice or 500 for lifetime.

    I enjoy my Tivo so I'll pay it. But that doesn't mean it doesn't sting. 20 a month plus 2 dollars for the cable card is significantly more then the 17 a month I paid for my Cable Co's DVR. And that 17 a month wasn't on top of the 300 I paid for the Tivo Premiere XL box. As ****** as the Cable DVR was I could exchange it for a new one in the office if it so much looked at me wrong.
     
  3. mikeyts

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    I suppose that all of the little cruddy little network apps they've added to it over the years might be considered a part of the service, in a way. Okay--piss and moan if it makes you feel better :). It's likely to get just as much results as all of the thousands of posts complaining about the Netflix app since it became available three years ago. Or buy an inexpensive streaming box, like the Roku, and enjoy its superior Netflix interface (and get much more besides).

    I personally never use any of them (I have 4 other devices connected to my AV system on which to watch Netflix--PS3, Xbox 360, Panasonic DMP-BDT110 and this PC). I'm happy with my TiVo S3, as it does what I bought it for very well.
     
  4. bensonr2

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    Yeah I noticed this problem last night. And I checked again this morning and its still going on.

    I opened a support ticket a few days ago with Tivo regarding the 100 episodes limit and they insisted an update was coming soon to "resolve various issues" with the the Netflix app.

    I wonder if they are trying to implement sub folders for shows with multiple seasons.
     
  5. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Well-Known Member

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    Top Gear tends to lock up my TiVo off and on. This is even via the episode guide. Last night when I was double checking series to update my list, going into season 6 of Top Gear froze my UI and I had to reset the UI.

    I think it is due to the size of the series.
     
  6. bensonr2

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    This is the latest reply I received from Tivo support:


    There was not a software update recently and your TiVo Premiere has been on the latest version since the 1st of June. What does the error message say when it attempts to load your instant queue as we are noticing some errors that Netflix is looking at currently.


    They also gave me steps to power cycle my Tivo. So support at least seems like they are clueless as to the current problems. Though at least they seem aware.
     
  7. TiVoStephen

    TiVoStephen formerly TiVoOpsMgr

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    Folks, there was an issue with Top Gear last night and this morning that affected all Netflix users (including non-TiVo platforms). Netflix has corrected the problem. Sorry for any inconvenience.

    Best,
    Stephen
     
  8. CoxInPHX

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    There is another work around I did not see mentioned.

    While there is a 100 Episode limit you can easily change which Episodes show up in the TiVo Netflix app. A very good example would be Stargate SG1 where there are over 200 Episodes, (216 Episodes, 10 Seasons)

    All you need to do is:
    Exit the Netflix app on the TiVo.
    Play a few seconds of the first Episode of a season on a computer.
    Restart the TiVo Neflix app and the entire season of that Episode you just played on the computer will be populated.
     
  9. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    There shouldn't need to be workarounds. Tivo has known about this problem for months. There is no reason for it not be fixed. Just another slap in the face to paying customers.
     
  10. DocNo

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    I dunno, with so many devices that can play Netflix I'm not that worried about Tivo not doing it well. My Tivo box is too slow to screw with stuff other than it's native functionality.

    Interface lag is my greatest complaint with Tivo, and if there was someone who offered at least the same functionality and reliability with the core recording functions when it comes to WishLists and Season Passes I would switch in a heartbeat! I've been a Tivo user (and promoter!) since the early Series 1 days, but their bone-headed cost cutting measures with hardware and then their bloated software decisions have been a continual source of frustration. When I first got my Series 3 I was in nirvana - it was as fast as the Series 1 and Series 2s used to be when they were first released - but just like the Tivo's before it, by the second software update the same slow and laggy interface re-asserted itself :mad:

    I just ordered a lifetime premiere to replace my Series 3 - mainly to get lifetime back on a box. I didn't get lifetime on my Series 3 because I though there might be an alternative to Tivo by now, but other companies are more clueless than Tivo. Sigh....

    As for netflix, the Apple TV used to be my favorite device for Netflix because the quality was NOTICEABLY better than any other device I had (Tivo, Wii (ha!), Xbox 360, PS3), but I fired up Netflix on my PS3 and I was pleasantly surprised - the interface was much improved and the quality matches the Apple TV (far superior to Netflix through my Tivo). The Bluetooth Sony remote that I got for watching BlueRay movies is nice because of the Bluetooth, and while the layout isn't as friendly as Tivo's it's better than the Apple TV remote (not hard!). Plus you can use a keyboard with the PS3 which is very nice - and I can also add new movies to my que.

    So I use Tivo for what they do well, and also for Pandora since you don't have to interact with it much - but for anything where the HME interface is involved, Tivo's crappy performance pretty much sucks the fun out of it. I'm hoping the premiere will be at least the same as the S3. A friend just got one and it doesn't appear to be as bad as many in the forums have been complaining so we will see.
     
  11. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    TiVoStephen covered that in post #24 on 4/15/11 and there were many respones about it. ;)


     
  12. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    Tivo makes you PAY to use the app. It should be BETTER than the free alternatives.
     
  13. mikeyts

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    How's that? AFAIK, you don't pay anything extra to TiVo to use the Netflix app--I never did. Or are you talking about your TiVo subscription fee? That's BS--you'd pay the same fee whether they'd added Netflix or not and whether you use it or not. I'd prepaid three years when I bought my TiVo and Netflix wasn't there and I wasn't asked to pay anything more when they added it.
     
  14. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    The Netflix app doesn't work if you don't pay for service. Therefore, the Netflix app is part of the Tivo service.
     
  15. DocNo

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    I guess it's a matter of perspective but no they don't. I happily pay Tivo for the Tivo service. That the other home media apps and Netflix are a bonus from my perspective. If they would just clean up the base functionality I would be much happier...
     
  16. DocNo

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    And? It doesn't work if I don't pay Microsoft for Xbox Live Gold either - but that doesn't mean I paid for it on Xbox Life - it just happens to be bundled in, exactly as it is with the Tivo service.

    I tried it again on the Premiere last night. At least it's faster once again. You still can only view shows in your instant que and can't search for shows on demand. I guess I'll be sticking with my Apple TV or the PS3 :p
     
  17. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    It's completely different. Xbox doesn't pretend to be a "one box" solution. They treat their "extras" as just that.....EXTRA. If you stop paying for Xbox Live, your Xbox still does what it's meant to do, play video games.

    Tivo makes a HUGE deal out of their web capabilities and use them to differentiate themselves from the competition.

    I'd like to point out some sections of the Tivo Service Agreement where Tivo is pretty clear that the networking features are a part of the Tivo service. It's Tivo's language.....not mine. The Netflix app is not an "extra". It's part of the Tivo service that you are paying for. You are paying for a product that is considerably worse than what other set top boxes give away for free.

    3.3 Network-Enabled TiVo Service Features. You must have a network-enabled TiVo DVR to use any network-enabled TiVo service features such as music, photos and Multi-Room Viewing (see Section 3.3.1 below), access to PC-Based Media (see Section 3.3.2 below)), TiVoToGo feature (see Section 3.3.3 below), and third party download or streaming services. A network-enabled TiVo DVR has an established network connection through the TiVo DVR's built-in USB port (including a wired (Ethernet) or wireless USB network adapter); is running a TiVo software version that supports home networking; and has an active subscription to the TiVo service. Some network-enabled TiVo service features require installation of the then-current TiVo Desktop application (www.tivo.com/desktop) on a home computer that is connected to the same home network as your TiVo DVR. Some TiVo service features require a broadband connection to the Internet through the home network. The Multi-Room Viewing feature requires two network-enabled TiVo DVRs that are enabled for Multi-Room Viewing. The TiVoToGo feature requires a TiVo DVR that is running a TiVo software version that supports that feature.

    4. We Don't Control Third-Party Content! The TiVo service gives you the ability to access audio, video, and other media over which TiVo exercises no editorial or programming control ("Third Party Content").
     
  18. SmoknKynd

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    Here we are- nearly a year after the problem surfaced and still no fix from Tivo or Netflix.

    I'm seriously regretting shelling out the money to buy a second Tivo this year (the much-hyped Premiere). For $100 and a $200 commitment I got a Tivo with slightly more storage, a lousy OTA tuner (Series 3 is far superior) and lackluster Netflix service.

    I should have just bought a TV tuner card for my PC. This is pathetic.
     
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    b_scott

    b_scott TiVo Fan

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    Finally.

    I'm more interested in 5.1 than 1080p, but I both will be good.
     

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