Netflix 100 episode limit

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  1. Apr 8, 2011 #21 of 139
    mattack

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    What about other issues, like some shows not playing properly? (e.g. some Top Gear episodes.. I can find specific ones if necessary)

    That is, how can we report those issues? (There should be a "report a bug" page on tivo.com...)
     
  2. Apr 9, 2011 #22 of 139
    orangeboy

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    While it would be nice if there were a "Report a Problem" within the TiVo Netflix app itself, problems with specific content can be reported* on the Netflix site, under:
    "Your Account & Help" > "INSTANT WATCHING ACTIVITY" > "Report problem"

    *Except content found and played from TiVo Search. That is not reported in the Instant Watch Activity.
     
  3. Apr 9, 2011 #23 of 139
    PaJo

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    We love Roku, have three of them. However, Roku players have also been having some minor problems with the recent changes at Netflix. It's ironic when you read their support forums and see people wishing they never bought a Roku. I am sure Tivo will resolve the issues just as Roku and the others will. I think many of the issues are actually unknown until people complain. It's nice having both the Tivo and Roku, if one doesn't work you can try the other and help determine if it is a problem the player.
     
  4. Apr 15, 2011 #24 of 139
    TiVoStephen

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    Netflix let us know that they've rolled out the foldering for almost all TV shows.

    We've been working with Netflix and Tribune to resolve the issue where some shows aren't displayed as being available when using different searches in the TiVo UI (beta search on Series3 or the HD UI search on Series4).

    Netflix has implemented a 100-episode "window" for TiVo and almost all other platforms. So when you play a particular episode, the window will be around that episode. Then if you move to a different episode, the window will update (although the window can take a while to update -- Netflix tells us the window is updated every few hours).

    Note that you can play back an episode on any device (including a browser) to update your bookmark and cause the window to shift.

    The 100 episode window is a Netflix limitation, and applies to not just TiVo but pretty much all Netflix platforms. Please contact Netflix if you have feedback regarding this change they've made.
     
  5. Apr 15, 2011 #25 of 139
    innocentfreak

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    Thanks for getting back to us on this issue.
     
  6. Apr 15, 2011 #26 of 139
    Stormspace

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    This past weekend I noticed new episodes of Top Gear on the Roku. When I went to look for them yesterday I saw that they were in a folder. I like that, I just wish they'd have kept the viewing history. Scrolling through tens of episodes in a list where you've watched bits a pieces from each season and not having that history makes it difficult to know where you are. Does the TiVo remember that you watched a show from a previous season in the new lists?
     
  7. Apr 15, 2011 #27 of 139
    mikeyts

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    I don't know what the 100 episode limit's about, but Netflix has 182 episodes of Scrubs (9 seasons) and on the PS3, Panasonic BDT110 BD player (same HTML5 GUI as PS3) and Xbox 360 I can scroll through the entire list, one episode at a time (really, really rapidly on the PS3), without my having played any of them. The PC player has a single page for each television series, each with a vertical stack of tabs for each season and when you press a tab it displays the episodes from the labelled season.

    So, of the 5 devices that I have capable of streaming from Netflix, TiVo is the only one which won't allow me to select series episodes > 100. (I have a Roku XD in a box which has been waiting for me to mail it back to Amazon and I'm really tempted to plug it in to see how it handles >100 episode series).

    If I have to watch an episode to get the window re-centered around the one that I watch, I'd have to do that twice to get to the last season of Scrubs, since watching Episode 100 would change the window to Episodes 50-149--right?

    EDIT: Couldn't resist--the Roku XD can scroll through all 182 episodes of Scrubs, as a circular list, showing the title and description of each as it goes along. That makes 4 embedded players and the PC which don't seem to be affected by the "100 episode window" which afflicts TiVo's Netflix player.
     
  8. Apr 15, 2011 #28 of 139
    mattack

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    You didn't answer my question about what to do about SOME SHOWS THAT DO NOT PLAY PROPERLY (e.g. Top Gear). How do we report those issues?
     
  9. Apr 16, 2011 #29 of 139
    mikeyts

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    Started watching episode 159 of Scrubs 4 hours, 20 minutes and my "window" on TiVo hasn't changed to include it as of yet.
     
  10. Apr 16, 2011 #30 of 139
    Lazlo123

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    I'm not sure who's "brilliant" plan this was to put the entire series into one folder, but they kind of half @$$ed it on Tivo. (suprise!). It sure would be nice if there was SEASON folders within the SERIES folder (like on the Netflix website).

    It is such a pain to have to scroll down to episode entry 80-something everytime I want to watch the newest shows.

    I really don't think Tivo should advertise Netflix as a feature at all. It is absolutely horrid.
     
  11. Apr 16, 2011 #31 of 139
    moyekj

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    Hopefully this issue will provide TiVo with the incentive to update the Netflix HME app once and for all. Pandora was a fairly recent example of a good HME implementation by TiVo so I know the capability to improve the Netflix one is there.
     
  12. Apr 16, 2011 #32 of 139
    subarr

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    For the record, the window shifting doesn't work for me. I ran ep. 100 of Numbers yesterday on TiVo, then 101 on my computer (the bookmark on my Netflix account is clearly marked as being at ep. 102). I still can't get past 100 on my TiVo.
     
  13. Apr 16, 2011 #33 of 139
    aadam101

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    I agree. I love the Pandora interface. It's one of the few things Tivo has done right in a long time.
     
  14. Apr 16, 2011 #34 of 139
    orangeboy

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    You should try reading the thread you're posting to, before posting.
     
  15. Apr 16, 2011 #35 of 139
    mikeyts

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    The shifting "window" thing's not working for me either--my bookmark in Scrubs is still on episode #159 (for the past 18+ hours) and TiVo's still showing me episodes 1-100. I can go into the four other embedded players in devices I have and start from where I left off.
    I think that was just a turn of phrase--I don't think that he was asking literally. Who at Netflix was responsible for the idea? Someone or some small group of people cooked the idea up. Of course, none of us is in a position to know.
     
  16. Apr 16, 2011 #36 of 139
    orangeboy

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    I suppose I read inference that somehow TiVo was responsible for the change, and not Netflix itself.
     
  17. Apr 17, 2011 #37 of 139
    scandia101

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    It's working just fine on my TiVo Premiere.
    The thing is though, that it doesn't just slide the window to center on the watched episode.
    I watched S8 ep7 on my pc and two hours later I checked my Premiere and saw the eps of S1 displayed and assumed that nothing had changed, but then I rapidly scrolled to the bottom of the list and saw that it was listing all of the eps of S9 so I went back through the list and found that it was displaying at least 2 episodes of each season. All of S1 and S2 were listed, and the first 11 eps of S3, then the first 2 eps of S4 5 & 6, then all of S7 8 & 9

    It's not a very elegant way to do things, but it works.
     
  18. Apr 17, 2011 #38 of 139
    mikeyts

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    You're right--my bookmark is in episode 159, which is Season 8, Episode 9. The folder on TiVo contains all of seasons 1 and 2, 12 episodes of S3, 2 episodes each of S4, S5 and S6, 4 episodes of S7 and all of S8 and S9. Of that bizarre 100 episode subset, absolute episode 159 is episode 77. Very, very, very profoundly goofy :rolleyes:.

    It still does not know where my bookmark is. I open the folder and Season 1, Episode 1 is selected; if I scroll down and enter the description of the episode where my bookmark is, I am not offered an option to resume. In all of the other embedded players I have (PS3, Xbox, Roku XD, Panasonic BDT110), if I open that series, the episode containing my bookmark is selected and "resume" is the selected option. (On some of them if I just select the series in the title browser and press PLAY, it will continue from my bookmark).

    At this point, TiVo's embedded Netflix player has got to be hands down the worst one in existence. I'll admit that I haven't tried all of them, but it's difficult to see how they could suck more than TiVo's (I know that the Wii and a defunct Roku model have SD-only players, but their UIs are pretty good). Gratefully, I have other choices (including the PS3, which is probably the current best with some available encodes featuring 5.1 sound, 1080p video and closed captioning) and don't have to use TiVo's :D.
     
  19. Apr 17, 2011 #39 of 139
    subarr

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    Yes, thanks Scandia. I honestly did not notice that the episodes had shifted because I saw season 1 at the beginning and assumed it was still the same. Plus, I guess I assumed the ep. numbers would shift. Now I see that the later episodes are there, or at least some of them.

    Still a pain since it's not logical -- I assume the numbers are constantly shifting around, but at least I can watch them now.

    (Search problem still not solved but for me the ability to see the episodes was the crucial part).
     
  20. Apr 17, 2011 #40 of 139
    scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    I just checked my Netgear Digital Entertainer Live and when I choose Scrubs, I don't get anything except a message stating "No titles found under this category." Previously it only showed season 1.
     

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