Nero launch Tivo/Liquid TV in the US

Discussion in 'TiVo Series 1 - UK' started by Sneals2000, Sep 29, 2008.

  1. Sneals2000

    Sneals2000 New Member

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    http://www.nero.com/enu/liquidtv-introduction.html?NeroSID=384fbea18d35672744d9879c9ede939f

    http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/

    So it looks like Nero are launching an ATSC tuner card + Tivo front-end solution to run on a PC. It includes streaming between Tivo and Tivo PCs and export to PSP/iPod.

    $199 including 1 year Tivo sub, ATSC tuner and Nero branded Tivo remote according to Engadget - though Nero suggests the remote and blasters are separate purchases. FAQ suggests $199 includes tuner and remote, $99 version is software only. Both include 12 months Tivo subscription.

    Looks to be a US product - no idea if we'll ever see it over here... The FAQ mentions announcements about Worldwide availability in 2009, with a US launch in October 2008.
     
  2. britcub

    britcub Bear with a TiVo

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    We can only keep our fingers crossed for a UK version :)
     
  3. Jimus

    Jimus Meat Popsicle

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    Cmon TiVo, my box is on its last legs (have sound probs needing multiple reboots) get it here fast!

    Maybe Santa could intervene on our behalf in time for Xmas

    Jimus
     
  4. s2kdave

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    On the Nero site it says it releases Oct. 2008
     
  5. laurence@key2.co

    laurence@key2.co Loz

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    They got that sorted out pretty quick! I'm sure they only announced a deal to write that about 6 months ago or so. I wonder if that will impact on prospects for a standalone box for the UK.
    All very exciting though!
     
  6. TCM2007

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    I guess the TiVo software code is fairly platform neutral. Or its running under a Linux virtual machine.
     
  7. Pugwash

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    Looks promising. I can only hope that this will work on any tuners that Vista/XP can handle, and I have two of those since I tried MCE and was sorely disappointed.
     
  8. mikerr

    mikerr TiVoCentral.co.uk

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    They were demo-ing a PC version as early as CES 2005/6
     
  9. s2kdave

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    That little black box with the tivo logo on it is probably a linux machine without any peripherals or tuner card and the nero stuff probably talks to it via some protocol they agreed upon.
     
  10. mikerr

    mikerr TiVoCentral.co.uk

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    No, it's just an infra red receiver.
    The software only package will be available on their site as a $99 download:
    http://www.nero.com/enu/store-liquidtv.html

    The software supports up to 4 tuners with BDA drivers (like MCE uses),
    so it should be a drop in replacement for MCE ;)

    Note that the $99 includes 1st years subs... $99/yr after that.
     
  11. mista_c

    mista_c New Member

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    I wonder if you are able to purchase a lifetime sub for this?
     
  12. ColinYounger

    ColinYounger It wasn't me.

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    I find it rather ironic that the second screenshot here has 'Suggestions (0)'.
     
  13. TCM2007

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    Now that would be a tough call if it were made available in the UK.

    While I love MCE's extender system, and the way it combines all media in one box, I know my Mrs would have TiVo back in a flash.
     
  14. mini__me

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    Would be good if this could work with dvb-s2 tuners in the UK :)
     
  15. Sneals2000

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    That's the US/Canada ATSC release date. There is a note in the FAQ that announcements about other (presumably DVB) regions will be made in 2009...
     
  16. Sneals2000

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    Deal announced a lot longer ago than that - sometime in 2007 ISTR?
     
  17. Sneals2000

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    Nope - that is an IR Receiver (and Blaster for set-top box control I think) - and is optional. The Tivo software can be bought without hardware for $99.
     
  18. Sneals2000

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    Though there is no point officially supporting DVB-S2 in the UK until Sky officially release a Videoguard receiver system is there? There are no DVB-S2 broadcasts for the UK that are not currently Videoguard encrypted. BBC HD, ITV HD and Luxe TV HD are all DVB-S.

    Of course you CAN get 3rd party, unofficial Videoguard-compatible CAMs, but I'm not sure fully commercial operations can be seen to support them.

    I don't know if the beta FireDTVS2 MCE-native (i.e. non-DVB-T spoofing) drivers for use with Vista TV Pack somehow add DVB-S2 support ? (There is a non-timebombed H264 DLL now...)
     
  19. mdolan

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    Hmmm.

    A (p)review of it here:

    http://blogs.ft.com/techblog/2008/09/rom-burner-nero-fiddles-with-tivo-with-mixed-results/

    "I suffered slow response times and stuttering video. The application also crashed repeatedly trying to update a programme guide."

    "Nero told me the product was optimised for quad-core PCs and the crash was probably due to a firewall problem. I was eventually able to get it working and liked the familiar Tivo interface and its superior usability, but my experience shows the problems that can be encountered when Tivo is taken out of the safe environment of its own hardware."

    Optimised for quad-core? Hmmm.

    Cheers,
    Mike
     
  20. tivo525235

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    "However, the Nero deal should give Tivo more exposure in Europe, where the German company can help to promote it beyond its UK beachhead"

    I have a feeling that beachhead is slipping away.
     

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