Need Help with Series 3 HD and Onkyo Receiver

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by atomarchio, Aug 19, 2007.

  1. atomarchio

    atomarchio Member

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    Just got my S3 HD Tivo and cable cards installed by Time Warner.

    However, I have a question. How do I get the remote to turn off both my Sony TV and Onkyo receiver. Is that possible?

    Currently, I can't get the remote do both and when I use my Tivo Remote to turn off my TV I still hear the audio because the receiver is still on.

    Please let me know. Thanks.
     
  2. navman

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    the tivo remote can handle volume on the receiver but i dont think it has the ability to to power your avr off, id suggest looking for an universal remote
     
  3. Ilene

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    I have a Samsung DLP, an S3 and a Yamaha receiver. I have 2 TiVo glo remotes which turn on the receiver and the tv when I hit the green TV power button. It also adjusts the volume on the receiver.
    I have forgotten exactly how to do it, but there was a post in October that said how to do it. Search the early S3 posts and you will find it.
     
  4. minckster

    minckster New Member

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    Use the Glo remote's learning feature and your TV's and Onkyo remotes' on/off buttons. Here are instructions:

    http://customersupport.tivo.com/LaunchContent.aspx?CID=BE9BD3FE-3BE0-4636-88A3-C5D730E58855

    "The Series3 and TiVo Glo remotes can control power for up to three different devices.

    ~ To learn power for a second device, follow all of the instructions above but for Step 2, press the number 1 before pressing TV Power.

    ~ To learn power for a third device, follow all of the instructions above but for Step 2, press the number 2 before pressing TV Power.

    Notes If you use the TiVo remote to control power for more than one device, it is possible that one or more devices may not receive the Power On signal (for example, the TV may power on but the A/V receiver may not). Pressing Power again may turn off one device as the other turns on. If this happens frequently, you may need to turn on power for one device individually, either with its own remote or by pressing the Power button on the device itself."

    I assume that this procedure would work on the Glo remote's Input button too. It wouldn't work for me because my TV only cycles through the four inputs in use, while the Onkyo receiver cycles through all six of its inputs.
     
  5. atomarchio

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    What is the Glo remote? I just bought the $299 Tivo HD. Is there any possible way to turn off both the receiver and TV with that remote?

    Please let me know. Thanks.
     
  6. minckster

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    You'll be able to get your remote to control both the TV and the receiver, but you'll need the Glo remote's learning feature so you can train the TiVo remote to turn the Onkyo receiver both on and off (unless TiVo's improved their database of infrared codes since I programmed my Glo remote).

    I corrected my link above, in case it was dead when you clicked on it.

    The Glo remote is the one that come with the S3, but not the HD. I think it's $50.
     
  7. Ilene

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    I searched and found the post for you:
    "Originally Posted by ah30k
    Just program the power button a second time with the AV Rcvr code. I'mw working from memory here but its something like:
    TiVo-Pwr -- TV Code (sets the remote to turn TV on/off)
    TiVo-Mute -- AVR Code (sets the amp volume/mute)
    TiVo-Pwr (again) -- Amp Code (sets the remote to turn the amp on/off)"

    You said you had a S3, which is why I thought you had the Glo remote. You have THD, which has a remote I haven't seen, but basically this was the same procedure that I had used to program the remotes for my S2 and S1.
     
  8. minckster

    minckster New Member

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    Here are instructions for programming your standard TiVo remote to control power for both your TV and receiver. Please let me know if the TiVo remote can now both turn the power on AND off for Onkyo receivers. If it can't do both, you'll have to teach a Glo remote or go some other route.

    http://customersupport.tivo.com/TivoCollection/08962758-a6ac-4a42-917b-8d6c4301b969/ins_content.html

    [rant] customersupport . tivo . com is massively screwed up and pathetically slow. TiVo, buy a few more servers and stop changing URLs! Your own support site has dead links all over the place. Grrrr! [/rant]
     
  9. atomarchio

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    No, it's not working. I am trying the same Onkyo code that worked for the volume but it's not turning the receiver on/off. It only can do the volume.

    Also, noticing this new remote is quite slow. I have to press the button several times for even the TV to turn on.

    Is the "glo" remote fully compatible with this new Tivo HD? What other features does it offer for $50?
     
  10. minckster

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    Hmm. I would very much expect it to work with the TiVo HD, but I'm not absolutely certain. Perhaps someone who knows for sure will jump in. The remote's description doesn't mention the TiVo HD. :confused: Scroll down a bit for the description here: https://www3.tivo.com/store/accessories.do

    TiVo's problem with powering Onkyos on and off has existed for quite a while. I know that you can program the Glo remote to turn Onkyo receivers on and off though, assuming your Onkyo remote has a single button for both on and off.

    As for the slow response time, I'd try all of the remote codes for your TV. One of them may be snappier. Infrared interference can be a problem occasionally too. My S3 is very slow to the remote for about ten minutes after turning on the TV. (I have to aim very carefully for those ten minutes.) Is the TV slow to respond to the remote always or intermittently?
     
  11. atomarchio

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    It seems like once I program the TV then it works fine for the next 15-30 minutes. After a few hours, I come back to turn on the TV and it takes several attempts.

    I just looked at the Onkyo receiver and you're right. There are 2 buttons on the remote an "on" and then a "standby" button. It looks like you need to press them both to turn the receiver on and off again. What a pain in the a** this is starting to become.

    So what should I do? Should I buy the Glo remote or buy another receiver? If I need to buy a receiver, is there a Tivo recommended brand so I can avoid this from happening again? I know nothing about receivers and this Onkyo cost me $400 so that's frustrating that I have spend more money on another one.

    Please help. Thank you.
     
  12. minckster

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    If you're not hooked on the TiVo peanut remote yet, I'd look into a Universal remote. You might start your research with a Logitech Harmony 880 or 670. I found the 880 at $120, but returned it, even at that bargain price, in favor of the TiVo peanut. Some people really love the Harmonys.

    What I did for a while with the Glo remote is program the power button to turn on my Onkyo receiver and the mute button to turn it off (instead of muting). That's another way to go if you want to keep the TiVo peanut and don't have a single on/off button on your Onkyo remote from which to train the Glo remote.

    Just to be sure, there's no single button on your Onkyo remote that you can use to turn the receiver both on and off? (Why does Onkyo do that?!)
     
  13. atomarchio

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    I have no idea why they would have 2 buttons on the Onkyo remote for "on" and "standby".

    And I have used the Logitech Harmony remote in the past but I did not like the product. I thought the Tivo remote was much easier to use. My wife had no clue on how to use the harmony even after I showed about 10 times. She was b*itching about the harmony remote so much I had to take it back.

    So I am stuck with the Tivo remote. I guess I will have to order the glo remote and then buy another receiver which I am p**sed about but I have no choice apparently.

    Is there a receiver you would recommend? This is a lot of aggrivation and I hate to waste $1400 and not use my surround speakers.

    Please let me know your thoughts. I have no idea what kind of receiver to buy other than the single button.
     
  14. minckster

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    Using your Onkyo and a Glo remote, would the following quoted method work out for you? It is achievable for your setup. It's a little odd, in that you press the TiVo's power button to turn on both the TV and the receiver, but press the mute button to turn off the receiver AND the power button to turn off the TV. (One click to turn everything on; two clicks to turn everything off - but you're still using only the TiVo remote.)

    I don't have any recommendations for receivers, but if you decide to get a new one, just search this forum for that make and model. The Onkyos are the only ones that come to my mind that give the TiVo remote fits. It's more a problem from Onkyo's end - with separate on and standby buttons - than TiVo's.

    If you could find any remote that has a single button that turns your Onkyo receiver both on and off, you can use it to program a Glo remote. Perhaps a friend who owns an Onkyo with a single on/off button that happens to work with your receiver, or perhaps buying and returning a Harmony 880?

    Don't tell anyone in Greenpeace, but how about leaving the receiver on 24/7? $1400 pays for a lot of electricity.

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    And to add to your worries -- I have to keep the Onkyo remote around to change audio sources (TiVo, DVD, etc.). My TV cycles through all of its used and unused inputs, while the Onkyo cycles through only the used inputs. I couldn't figure out a way to get TiVo's one input button to control both devices' inputs at the same time.
     
  15. atomarchio

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    If I turn the TV off and leave the receiver on, the sound from whatever channel I was watching stays on which is annoying :(


    Great. Another problem I did not think about when changing audio sources. Anyone have a solution with changing audio sources with the Glo remote?

    Please let us know. Thanks.
     
  16. Bierboy

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    If you're gonna spend $50 on a new remote, don't waste it on the TiVo remote; buy an inexpensive universal remote....or spend an extra $10-$25 and get a good Harmony.
     
  17. atomarchio

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    I am going to look into the Harmony remote.

    Can someone recommend a good entry level receiver with a single on/off button? I am not going to use the ONKYO since it can't be controlled with a remote.

    I am open to any receiver suggestions you may have. Please let me know. Thanks.
     
  18. CharlesH

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    Myself and lots of others have no problem with the Onkyo and Harmony. I didn't have to do any manual configuration tweaking; I picked my model from their list, and it did everything right. It also integrates nicely with game consoles hooked to the Onkyo
     
  19. richsadams

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    We have an S3 and an Integra Receiver (high-end Onkyo) which uses the discreet on/off concept and conquered the problem a while back.

    Here are the details and instructions for programming your TV and an Onkyo/Integra receiver (and a couple of others including Yamaha) with a TiVo learning remote.
     
  20. Bierboy

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    + me. I have an Onkyo TX-SR601 and a Harmony 550. They work beautifully together.
     

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