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  1. Dec 4, 2015 #2081 of 3785
    unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

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    How big a problem did you have with the 1TB drive?

    You might still be able to "Xerox" it* to the 2TB and then use WinMFS to expand into the extra space.

    If not, here's the most recent version of the 648 OS for use with WinMFS



    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/49887720/648_11mGS.tbk



    and here's the most recent for use with the MFS Live cd v1.4



    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/49887720/648_11mGS.bak


    With either one, restore the image without doing the expansion as part of that process--that means leaving out the

    -x

    option in the

    restore

    command string when using the MFS Live cd, and telling it NO when it offers to expand when using WinMFS.

    After the restore, check the drive with

    mfsinfo


    and if everything looks okay, then expand using

    mfsadd.
     
  2. Dec 5, 2015 #2082 of 3785
    tiv

    tiv New Member

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    Having lurked around this forum, I must say that this is one of the most helpful forums I've come across.

    Now if anyone of you could be so kind as to help me get the TCD663320 tivo image (AUS/NZ variant)? I've searched around to no avail.

    Much appreciated!
     
  3. Dec 5, 2015 #2083 of 3785
    greg_burns

    greg_burns Now in HD

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    Slower...
    Currently my 1TB drive (a WD10EVCS - running v11k per WINMFS) will get to the "Almost there. Just a few minutes more..." then reboots again.

    My original 250GB drive works fine, its just stuck at the old v9.3. So the Tivo itself appears to be fine.

    Today, I've spend most of the day trying different things. Using WINMFS, I've tried loading the v11m image to both my new 2TB (WD20EURX) and also tried another 1TB (WD10EARS) I had laying around. Neither will get passed the Welcome powering up message. :(

    My last attempt was to use WINMFS to copy the bad 1TB to the new 2TB, but I get same results. Stuck at the welcome screen.

    I know some drives just don't work with the S3 (the Intellipark problem). But I would think it would at least boot, although maybe hang on a subsequent reboot.

    When you say "Xerox" do you mean using WINMFS's copy feature, or should i be trying linux's dd or dd_rescue?

    Anyways, I am running out of ideas and could use some insight.
     
  4. Dec 5, 2015 #2084 of 3785
    ThAbtO

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    Did you check the power supply on bad/failing capacitors?
     
  5. Dec 5, 2015 #2085 of 3785
    greg_burns

    greg_burns Now in HD

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    I was kinda ruling that out based on the fact that it works just fine using the original 250GB drive (running v9.3). Is that not a safe assumption to make?
     
  6. Dec 6, 2015 #2086 of 3785
    greg_burns

    greg_burns Now in HD

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    Looks like you are right. All the drives work just fine when powered via another source.

    http://imgur.com/uyH8OSr
     
  7. Dec 6, 2015 #2087 of 3785
    unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

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    Failing power supplies in Series 2 and Series 3 platform units can cause all sorts of strange symptoms.
     
  8. mikestanley

    mikestanley New Member

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    Could someone help me find an image for a Tivo HD TCD652160?

    Also going to scour the forum to see what my options are utility-wise, since I am all Mac at home. I do have VMware Fusion and can put my hands on a USB to eSATA adapter. Hoping I can connect a new WD20EURX to my MacBook Pro via the adapter and load either a Windows or Linux utility to put the image on the new drive.

    I have a Windows 10 VM, but can also spin up a Linux one, or boot a VM off a "live CD" ISO if that's the easiest thing to do.

    Thanks for your help!
     
  9. unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

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    For use with the MFS Live cd

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/49887720/652m.bak


    For use with WinMFS

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/49887720/652m.tbk



    11.0m is the most recent version of the 652 OS


    When restoring the image to the 2TB, do not try to do the expansion as part of that process, which means do not include the

    -x

    option on the command line (you can skip -z as well, and just go with -pi), and in WinMFS when it finishes and says you have extra space and asks if you want to expand, tell it NO.

    Then check the drive with

    mfsinfo

    to see if everything looks okay

    In WinMFS that'll also show you the partition map, with the MFS Live cd you'll need to run the command

    pdisk -l

    to see it


    You should see a big Apple Free partition on the end.

    Then run

    mfsadd

    to convert that Apple Free partition to a 3rd MFS partition pair.


    But before doing any of that, use Western Digital's own diagnostic software long test on that 2TB just to be sure.

    It's on the Ultimate Boot cd if you can't find it elsewhere.
     
  10. mikestanley

    mikestanley New Member

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    Thanks so much, Unitron!

    Since I have a Windows 10 VM on my Mac, would you say it's easiest to just use WinMFS from it?

    I've downloaded an ISO for UBCD and I'll definitely run the WD diagnostics on the new drive - thanks for the tip!
     
  11. unitron

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    Just remember to burn it to cd-r "as an image" or it won't boot.

    I have no experience with either Macs nor VMs, but you could try it and if WinMFS, running as admin, can see the drive it should work.
     
  12. slingblade01

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    Hello,

    I looking (begging) for an image for a Series 2 TCD-540040. I will most likely use WinMFS if I can find some instructions.

    TIA
     
  13. ThAbtO

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    PM'd link.
     
  14. slingblade01

    slingblade01 New Member

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    I have downloaded it. Thanks
    :up:
     
  15. unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

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    For WinMFS you need an image file with the .tbk extension.

    The .bak files are for the MFS Live cd

    I assume you're reusing the original drive.

    When the 540 was in production at least some of them got Maxtor drives and back then Maxtor was making drives with a slightly larger LBA number than WD and Seagate for the advertised drive size.

    So an image from a 40GB Maxtor won't quite fit onto a 40GB Seagate or WD.

    If the link your were PM'ed was for

    540040c.tbk

    then that's likely my image and it came from a Maxtor, so you'll need a drive with an LBA number of at least


    80293248


    If you're using a larger drive, when WinMFS finishes restoring it will tell you there's additional space on the drive and ask if you want to expand.

    Tell it NO.

    Then check the drive with

    mfsinfo

    and if everything looks okay and the partition map has an Apple Free partition at the end, expand in a separate process with

    mfsadd


    How to WinMFS:

    Connect the target drive to the PC, boot into Windows, ignore it when it says it found a new drive and do not launch any Windows applications that look at or do anything with hard drives.


    Then launch

    winmfs.exe

    Find Select under one of the menu options at the top, then select the drive.

    It should be the only one showing.

    (Ordinarily it won't show or let you select any drives that are formatted for a PC)

    Then click on Restore and tell it where to find the .tbk file

    (for that it'll look on the other drive or drives in the PC)

    Once you've specified the target drive and the image file, click on whatever button it offers that says Restore or OK or whatever, and sit back and wait.

    When if finishes, check the drive with

    mfsinfo


    just to make sure it worked right.


    If you got


    540040c.tbk

    that's the latest version of the software for the 540s.
     
  16. Regardie

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    Thanks for the 648 image. One thing to note about the WinMFS image. I had to go through guided setup twice. Once since that's what it booted into, and then again as it would not record without a clean and delete. I got the error 51(?) message.

    I replaced 15 caps in the PSU that were bad, going bad, or questionable, but the HD was also bad. It does not spin up at all. So I needed a new image to lay on a replacement drive. The only one I had around was an old EADS 1TB Green drive. It would do nothing until wdidle was run and I disabled the Intellipark feature.
     
  17. unitron

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    Yeah, each TiVo (not each model but each individual unit) has a unique TiVo Service Number, which is stored on a chip on the motherboard, and the record on the drive of what that number is has to match. Which means an image has the TSN from the TiVo from which it was taken. When the image is put on a drive and the drive is connected to a different motherboard, even though the same model, the mismatch is noted and it throws an error 51.

    So you have to Clear & Delete Everything and start GS from scratch and during that process the drive gets "married" to the board and the right TSN (for that board) is written to the drive.

    That's why you can't transfer programs by just swapping drives.

    That EADS should work okay in the TiVo with Intellipark defeated. It's as fast as the TiVo can take advantage of.
     
  18. rhambus1

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    Hey there! Decade-long lurker (so old that apparently my old handle is TOO old to reset the password) but first time poster. I have an old Tivo Series 3 Model TDC648250B for which the HD has given up the ghost. I can back it up successfully, but I can't write it successfully, and am getting some kind of error inode 0 business when I try to restore the image using WinMFS. Does anyone have a working .tbk file that will work for my TiVo? Thanks so much!
     
  19. ThAbtO

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    What drive are you trying to restore to? There is currently an issue with WD20EURS (or was it WD20EURX) that the PC cannot recognize.

    I will PM you an image and think its the current 11.0m version.
     
  20. unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

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    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/49887720/648_11mGS.tbk

    for WinMFS usable image.


    and just in case you or someone else wants or need to use the MFS Live cd v1.4 instead, here's the version compatible with it.

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/49887720/648_11mGS.bak


    However, to echo ThAbtO, what make and model of drive are you planning to use, 'cause there does seem to be a problem right now with recently produced WD20EURX drives.

    I've got one built in April of 2014 that's working fine in a 648, but 2 on hand about a year newer that I just got from newegg and Windows (and therefore WinMFS) can't see them at all, and if I "Xerox" that older drive to one of the newer ones and then test it in the TiVo, the TiVo never boots.

    Still waiting to hear back from WD tech support after I finally got the script jockey to escalate.


    P.S. go find one of my posts where I talk about/recommend/most strongly urge doing the expansion later as a separate process with

    mfsadd

    to avoid problems with either WinMFS or the MFS Live cd, and that's for any S1 through S3 TiVo.
     

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