Need Advice on Possible HR10-250 Swap

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by markedcw, Feb 10, 2009.

  1. BigBearf

    BigBearf New Member

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    I have 8 HR10s and have swapped out 6 of them for HR22s. I specified on the work order that I would not accept anything except new boxes and the HR22 was the latest at that time and came with the 500 GB hard drive.

    The boxes were supposed to be owned but as stated above that was not the case when they were activated. I guess I could argue but I got 6 HR22s installed free. I also kept my HR10s and deactivated my SD Tivo DVRs. I will keep at least 4 HR10s activated until the new HD Tivo is a reality and hopefully I can swap out all my remaining HR10s for the new HD Tivo.

    Hope this helps and I hope this pans out
    BigBearf
     
  2. Tybee Bill

    Tybee Bill New Member

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    The lease versus is a hot topic. The fact is, if you own a box, you can sell it if you no longer want it. If it is leased, you must return to D* if you term.

    If you buy a used HR on Ebay, and it is a leased box, you CAN'T activate it, even with a new card.

    It is a big deal for someone who bought a box for $999.99 and found out that D* will no longer provide a usable HD signal, after a few years.

    Any HD boxes purchased after Mar 06 are leased and even if you bought from Best Buy, it is still leased.

    Any HR10 purchased prior to Mar 06 (most) should be replaced free of charge, no fees, no lease and no extension of commitment.

    Unless of couurse one doesn't care about getting HD programming.
     
  3. MikeAndrews

    MikeAndrews Registered abuser

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    Even if you own it they stiuck you with 2 year year commitment without telling you.

    Dump DirecTV and go with Comcast+CableCARDs. Get another HD TiVo.

    More than anything you'll want to keep the TiVo Ui. You'll also get the network capability and features you'll never have with D*.
     
  4. sjberra

    sjberra New Member

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    Had a HR10 and a SD-Tivo unit (both owned) replaced under the protection plan, the CSR activated them and they went to leased. CSR had no idea on anything other then leased. Finally got through to the Access card department and was able to rectify the situation, both boxes are now in the system as owned and the commitment that was triggered by the replacement has been removed.

    Now those two where done via the protection plan, the last Phillips SD unit that I had upgraded to a HD for free is a leased unit, and not owned
     
  5. stevel

    stevel Dumb Blond TCF Club

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    The resale value of old DirecTV boxes is not high, and with a leased box, if it breaks, DirecTV will replace it for shipping charges only.
     
  6. shibby191

    shibby191 New Member

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    All the multiple hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars I've spent over the years on owned receivers are now worthless and collecting dust. Yea, that was worth it for "resale value". Resale value is only worth anything if you are going to leave in just a couple years. I use my receivers until they are dead. As for the HD DirecTivo, I refused to pay $800-$1000 for it because I knew it would be obsolete because it didn't do MPEG4. So I made a decision to wait an additional 2-3 years to be able to record HD. For those that bought it anyway, you made that choice.

    So does ATI owe me a free replacement because the video card I bought 2 years ago for $400 is now obsolete and won't play the newest games? No, it's a choice I made.

    I wish people would quit feeling like they are a victim or something.
     
  7. Tybee Bill

    Tybee Bill New Member

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    I stay with D* primarily because I move between two homes and an RV. I have dishes at all locations and take my boxes with me. The second reason is that I have made a MAJOR investment in hardware. I have purchased 12 boxes since 2002 and they all still work. The most expensive box I bought was tha HR10. D* graciously offered to replace it when it would no longer provide a HD signal. I have Brighthouse in Florida and FIOS just put some cable in my front yard. I am tempted to leave but I can't take cable with me when I travel. I will also acknowledge that D* CSR will take care of you at some level. You may have to work your way to retention. I got a $240 credit for a $200 overcharge they made. I upgraded a box for $199 and they screwed up the return and charged me $400+. When I caught their mistake the reversed everything, including the $199. You can't get that at Comcast, FIOS or Brighthouse.
     
  8. humbland

    humbland New Member

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    What is the best of the current DTV HD DVR receivers?
    I don't need OTA capability, since I will keep the HR10-250.
    Which one has the most capacity, and will they deliver that particular box if requested?
    Can you also explain the Costco purchase, is it done onlie or at a local bricks and morter store?
    Thanks
     
  9. stevel

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    The one with the most capacity is the HR23. The HR22 is similar. No, you can't ask for a specific model if you order from DirecTV. The CSR may tell you they'll put in the request, but the reality is that you get whatever is on the truck.

    With Costco, they have the boxes in the store. You pay the "lease upgrade fee" and then schedule an install.
     
  10. codespy

    codespy Go A-Rod (Packers)

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    Just requested a replacement HR20-100 for a HR10-250 three days ago. CBS here has no agreement w DTV so we needed OTA and a unit with an internal fan.

    Yesterday, received a HR20-100 via fed ex shipped from Stockbridge GA.
     
  11. shibby191

    shibby191 New Member

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    HR20 - original receiver, has OTA tuners
    HR21 = HR20 without OTA tuners (use AM21 OTA external tuner instead)
    HR22 = HR21 with larger hard drive
    HR23 = HR22 with wideband tuners built in (thus don't need external BBand converters)

    All run the same software and same abilities.
     
  12. stevel

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    All of the HR2x receivers can also work with the new Single Wire Multiswitch (SWM) dishes or modules, in which case BBand Converters (BBCs) are not used. SWM allows a single feed from the dish to serve up to 8 tuners, with splitters allowed (only one cable needs to be attached to a dual-tuner box.) In most cases, DirecTV is not offering SWM to normal customers - you can buy the module separately. There is also a dish with an integrated SWM that is more compact than the standard 5-sat dish. Note that "legacy" receivers cannot use a SWM feed.
     
  13. TyroneShoes

    TyroneShoes HD evangelist

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    Stuff gets obsolete in a hurry. If you are one of those people that likes to hold on to the past, I might have a vintage TRaSh-80 in the attic I'd be willing to let you haul away. :)
     
  14. codespy

    codespy Go A-Rod (Packers)

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    I'll pay you to take my Apple IIe with extended 64k 80 column card and dual disk drives (5 1/4"). If you're nice, I will throw in my Beta Hi-Fi VCR! :eek:
     
  15. shibby191

    shibby191 New Member

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    I think I might still have the 4 meg memory card (yes...MEG) that I paid $300 for to give me a whole 8 meg in my 486 just so I could play Doom better. Or maybe that 1 gig hard drive I paid $600 for and thought I got a steal.

    Yep, technology gets obsolete pretty fast. If you are on the edge you pay for it. ;)
     
  16. edkut

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    I still have Directv SD due to line of sight problems. The SD signal comes in fine but the HD signal will not work. Does anyone know if I get a HR10-250, will Directv activate that as a SD only receiver and if so will this allow me to record over the air HD. Also will this unit work for over the air only without activating it. If anyone knows this info please post. I have great Air signals to my location so this would at least get me some HD access.Thank You, Ed
     
  17. stevel

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    The HR10 will work as an HD tuner without DirecTV service, but you will not be able to record. I have heard of people convincing DirecTV to not require HD service for an HR10 and activating as a SD DVR - this would allow you to record OTA in HD (where available.)
     
  18. cthomp21

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    I've got two HR10's on my account and do not pay for HD service. I did have to call and press them a little to remove the HD service (which they added without my consent when I activated the used HR10's on my account).
     
  19. shibby191

    shibby191 New Member

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    This shouldn't be a problem anymore since the MPEG4 HD channels now all come from 99 and 103 (main sat is 101). So if you have a clear line of site to 101 then you'll be just fine for HD. The old MPEG2 HD came off 110 and 119 which are farther to the west (probably your line of site problem).

    You can't get these HD channels with the HR10 though. But just an FYI that you shouldn't have a LOS problem anymore.
     
  20. sk33t3r

    sk33t3r New Member

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    For me to upgrade my 4 SD tivo's to HD should I call customer retenttion and see if they will upgrade then all for free? i already have 1 HR21 and the new dish.
     

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