NBC Olympics coverage may be improving

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  1. cmontyburns

    cmontyburns Excellent. TCF Club

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    ...and is based on the book of the same name by Laura Hillenbrand, author of Seabiscuit. Harrowing story, but incredible. The book is worth reading.
     
  2. murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

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    Obviously you have not considered murgatroyd's Law of Sports TV, namely, that the viewer's perception of how much a sport is broadcast is in inverse proportion to the viewer's desire to watch it. ;)

    Thus you see skating 'quite often' when you channel-surf, while I seek it out and can't find enough.

    The golden days of ABC/ESPN/WWOS coverage are gone. NBC likes to counter-program football with themed professional skating+music events where everyone skates on a theme (e.g. Valentine's Day, or to the music of The Beatles), or with a live musical performer. The shows where people skate to a live musical act are actually a lot of fun when you are in the area, but the TV coverage of them is wretched. The directors often intercut the skating with shots of the musicians on stage, so you don't get any sense of the flow of the skating across the ice. (If you don't see how annoying that is, imagine that you are trying to listen to a song, only the person who is watching the show is muting the music whenever the skater is on screen.) IMHO broadcasts which don't show entire performances by skaters don't count as having real figure skating on TV. It is annoying as crap to see hours of these half-assed broadcasts when NBC doesn't broadcast all four events in the real competitions OTA (often only singles show up on TV, and you have to pay extra to see pairs and dance over the internet).

    They had planned to show the gala in its entirely on MSNBC but it got bumped for other sports. I don't have a problem with them showing the gala in the oh-dark-hundred timeslot, even if they don't show it for a couple of weeks, but I would like to see it, especially since they had told me it would air.

    The Gala is the Closing Ceremony. (There are Opening Ceremonies for figure skating competitions, too, but no one ever shows them.) Like the pre-game formalities and the halftime show at a football game, they are not part of the competition itself, but are still part of the whole event. It may seem weird to you, but it's no different than showing a coin toss, or the first pitch (and the seventh-inning stretch), in baseball.

    The main difference between football and skating here is that a figure skating competition is made up of many parts; spectators who might not have been able to attend all four parts of the main competition can attend the gala and see some of the skaters from all four events. And for Sochi, the gala was led off by some of the junior skaters, so it gives us a look at some of the future stars of the sport.

    Given that I lived through the era when the Tonya and Nancy debacle took place, and I already know that Nancy has married and has kids and is enjoying being a mom, none of the material in the film was news to me. I would much rather have been able to see the newer skaters coming up, for a sneak preview of who might be competing in the next couple of Olympic cycles.

    It seems perverse to run the Tonya and Nancy movie on the last day of the Olympics, when the Closing Ceremony looks forward to handing off the torch to the next city. On the last day of an Olympic Games, it's more appropriate to air a retrospective about the Games just past, not things that happened twenty years ago. Retrospectives from Olympics that long ago should be aired before the Games begin.

    Oh, and by the way, you said that I could find more figure skating if I just looked for it.

    If I had unlimited funds, then yes, I could find more: I would have enough bandwidth and could sign up for the subscriptions to see the stuff that NBC doesn't bother to broadcast. And if I were willing to do illegal stuff, I could find more skating by other means.

    I do have an auto-recording wish list for figure skating and it picks up whatever is on -- both the crappy pro shows and the pittance of competitive skating that NBC doles out. It's a bit silly to assume on a TiVo forum that I wasn't already looking for everything that was available.
     
  3. aindik

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    The first pitch and the seventh inning stretch are almost never televised.
     
  4. murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

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    But when they are, it is usually a high-level event, like the World Series.

    IIRC, ABC regularly broadcast the Gala for US Nationals and Worlds.

    For the Olympics, I have the commercial videos for 1994, 1998, and 2002, all of which have a tape or disc for the exhibition. I'm missing parts of 2006 and 2010 so I don't know what was included.
     
  5. laria

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    I actually enjoyed the Nancy and Tonya retrospective, not as much for the where are they now parts but for the recap stuff. When all this was going on I was a senior in high school, in the middle of my basketball season, doing stuff high school kids did, etc. so while I remember the whole incident, there was a lot going on around it in the aftermath and just their general upbringing parts that I wasn't really knowledgeable about.
     
  6. Steveknj

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    It was the start of a very bizarre season for the paparazzi. Four months later was OJ!
     
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    The more puffed up the coverage gets, the more TiVo shines.
     
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  10. hummingbird_206

    hummingbird_206 Retired

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    Yeah, I agree, not happy that NBC didn't show all of the gala. They didn't show it at all on NBC Sports, showed only a very small portion in Prime Time, and showed a little bit more in late night. Stupid NBC.

    And I watched the Nancy & Tonya show. I feel so sorry for Tonya. She had a tough life. She so wasn't an Ice Princess. I was a huge Figure Skating fan back in those days. Kristi, Nancy, Tonya, and Oksana were all so much fun to watch.

    I really felt sorry for Tonya when she said she thought she and Nancy were friends, but Nancy said they weren't friends that they'd just roomed together for some competitions.

    I like to believe that Tonya didn't have anything to do with the attack on Nancy. And I think it sucks that the FBI told Nancy that Tonya was the mastermind...but they couldn't prove it. Either prove it or STFU (FBI, not Nancy.) Nancy said it best, at this point, it just doesn't matter.
     
  11. eddyj

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    I have no problem believing she knew about it (although not necessarily the mastermind). Even now, in that special, she came across as always trying to blame others for her problems.
     
  12. Steveknj

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    In the 30 for 30, she's even worse. The show went into more detail about the whole plan against Kerrigan. I thought it was interesting that they show a scene where Tonya introudces the big dude as her bodyguard, and in the interview 20 years later, she says, no he wasn't her body guard, why did I need a body guard? I don't think she was in on the "hit" but I think she knew about it all along. I don't think it was her idea though. I do wonder, considering the on again off again relationship she had with Gilooly if this was his play to get back in her good graces, to make sure she wins the Gold Medal and he had a hand in it (of course a gold medal means lots of money, so that could be part of it though). But boy, were they the dumbest bunch of criminals ever?
     
  13. Jeeters

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    She must have forgotten about those supposed death threats she received in the early nineties that scared her into withdrawing from some competitions and that eventually lead to her having a bodyguard while at competitions.
     
  14. hummingbird_206

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    The way I understood Tonya was that her ex hubby forced her to keep the big guy around and act like he was her body guard. That way it looked like she was worried about being attacked even though she and her ex knew that she wasn't in danger of being attacked. That's why she said he wasn't her body guard. He was just a cover story concocted after the fact by her ex-husband to make her appear innocent.

    I think Tonya went from one abusive relationship (with her mother) to another (Jeff) and just didn't know what to do. She had divorced Jeff by the time the attack happened. I think it was his idea to attack Nancy so that Tonya would have a better chance of winning and she'd be so happy she'd take him back. Tonya said she found out about the attack after it had happened. I believe that. And she said she told the FBI she would cooperate with them if they would protect her from Jeff and his buddies. I believe that, too.

    Tonya is not the brightest bulb in the pack. She had a tough life. But I think she really thought of Nancy as a friend. And I think she believed she could beat Nancy. She had already beaten Nancy. I don't think she would have risked being involved in the attack. OK, I'm going to STFU about this, because again, as Nancy said, at this point, it doesn't really matter.:)
     
  15. murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

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    I wish I had a thousand dollars for every time Bob Costas or one of his substitutes said "Tonight -- figure skating -- but first ..."

    I've hardly seen any of the Primetime coverage because it was on so late in the timeslot, I had to go to bed. Then it was the next day and I was watching MSNBC.

    And I just checked my late-night recording, and NBC ran over the timeslot. So I didn't even get a chance to record all of the skaters they showed.
     
  16. Steveknj

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    Yeah, they did say that a lot. But it wasn't just figure skating, it was whatever the marquee event was that night. The idea, obviously is to keep you hanging around until it was shown. Most nights you could count on it around 9:30 Eastern until about 11:15. There's nothing wrong with this. It's just TV.
     
  17. secondclaw

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    I was watching the closing ceremony in the volunteer village canteen - room packed with Russian and international volunteers. Of course this was Russian-language broadcast, and two things stand out. First, they didn't cut anything, and second, their Russian commentator was doing same play-by-play that Costas does for opening/closing ceremony. The main difference was the commentator spent a lot of time relieving 1980 Olympics.
     
  18. Bigg

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    Thank god for TiVo. TV would be horrible without it...
     
  19. That Don Guy

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    Part of the closing ceremony itself (especially when they extinguished the torch) did a good job of that on its own. I guess they wanted to remind the USA that there actually was a Summer Olympics in 1980 (well, besides in the movie Goldengirl).

    Ironically, NBC had the broadcast rights to that Olympics; as a result of the boycott, NBC did not air any Olympics between Winter 1972 and Summer 1988. Forget about Nancy and Tonya; NBC should have done a story on the 1980 women's gymnastics all-around - now there was a controversy!
     
  20. Steveknj

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    NBC had broken a long string of ABC aired Olympics, and ABC aired 1984 Summer and Winter, and 1988 Summer, before NBC got the rights to the rest (I think CBS air the Winter Olympics in Calgary IRC). As a kid, I always thought of ABC as the network of the Olympics, and Wide World of Sports, used to show LOTS of Olympic sports to help promote their coverage. It was a different time, but I knew a lot more of the athletes those days than I do now, because WWOS had track and field and swimming and gymnastics and skating and skiing among other events on quite often. A lot is on now, but it's buried beneath dozens of college and pro mainstream sports that are all over the dial.
     

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