My couple month old Bolt+ died & was replaced with a refurb, should I be upset?

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by ned4spd8874, Sep 13, 2017.

  1. ned4spd8874

    ned4spd8874 Member

    Apr 18, 2009


    As the title says. I've only had my Bolt+ for a couple months and it just up and died on me a few days ago. TiVo replaced it under warranty of course. But it turns out they sent me a refurbished unit as a replacement. Should I worry?

    My issue is I just paid a lot of money for this and the lifetime service. Now I could have just bought a refurb unit and saved money at this point. I could see if it was a year old or so, but only a few months old and I get what is essentially a used box?!

    Oh, also, what would be the status of my warranty now? Do I get lesser of a warranty time period now?
  2. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Rochester NY
    No comment of TiVo's policy about using refurbished units to cover warranty replacements.

    Regarding what your warranty is now that somewhat depends on if you have a unit with All in/lifetime or if you pay for a monthly or annual subscription. First the replacement unit will have a full free replacement warranty, I am not sure if it is 30 days or 90 days, but believe it is 90 days, you could ask Tivo to be sure. After that if you pay monthly or annually you have the continuous care warranty which replaces a defective unit for $50 for as long as you continue to pay monthly or annually. If you bought all in service you have the $50 replacement cost for a defective unit after the full warranty is over I believe until 1 year from the original purchase date.
  3. shwru980r

    shwru980r Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2008
    I think the terms of the warranty state that they can send you a refurbished unit.
  4. DEC2955

    DEC2955 Member

    May 3, 2009
    Comment: I purchase factory refurbished electronics all the time! I find that these seem to last longer than a 'NEW' item as it has already been ''field tested'' and then repaired if needed. Sometimes the refurbished item is a unit that may never of even been powered up by the first owner and was return to the reseller under their return policy, and can not be sold as new since the box had been opened... sometimes the OEM box was damaged in transit.

  5. Mark_LAND_O_LAKES

    Mark_LAND_O_LAKES New Member

    Jun 27, 2017


    I have exactly the same situation, I have not yet received the replacement, I am hoping for one with better quality components. Is the board repaired or is it replaced with the same ones used in the factory? Why are all of these failing? These are not HD failures. What component is failing? Have they identified it and corrected the manufacturing? My Bolt+ might have been sitting around for awhile at the place I bought it from. Maybe the ones made recently are more reliable. If they send me one that was a return, then I might expect the same problem again. If they send me one that had the same problem fixed then that might be better. If they send me a new one with this problem fixed, that would be good as well. If 4 months from now it fails again, I'm out $50 because of TiVo's continued incompetence.

    Also, since I bought the LifeTime. The $50 thing ends. AND I AM TOLD, IF YOUR BOLT DIES AFTER THAT THE LIFETIME SUBSCRIPTION ENDS. So, a Lifetime may be 1 year. No guarantee that the LifeTime subscription will last more than a year.
  6. Xaa

    Xaa Active Member

    Jan 25, 2000
    Roanoke, VA USA
    OP, you should not be upset.

    What went bad wasn't a brand new Tivo, it was a 4 month old Tivo. They replaced something not new with something also not new. It's a bummer that yours went bad and for that I'm sorry, but if it hadn't gone bad you would have had a not new Bolt. Now, after refurb replacement, you have a not new Bolt.
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  7. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

    Oct 20, 2007
    MN, greater...
    Why would you be entitled to a new Tivo?
    Your Bolt+ was used when it died. If they fixed your Tivo and returned it to you, you would have a used tivo that has been fixed. If they send you a refurb, at worst you would be getting a used Tivo that has been fixed, but not all refurbs are used. If they can't sell a unit as new for any reason, they sell it as a refurb.

    But what you want is a new Tivo. Trading a used Tivo for a new one doesn't even make sense. You get a refurb because you send them a broken used Tivo and they return to you a used Tivo that has been fixed or possibly a new Tivo they can't sell as new).

    And you wouldn't have been able to buy a refurb anyway. It's been many many months since has had anything other than N adapters available in their outlet store and even then the only other items were other accessories, not Tivos.
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