Multi-Room Viewing is AWESOME!

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by exegesis48, Jun 3, 2011.

  1. Series3Sub

    Series3Sub Well-Known Member

    Mar 14, 2010
    I believe cable cos. do not flag, or may even be told by NAB NOT to flag due to an old court case ruling that the FCC was out of its authority to require broadcast flags--for OTA broadcasters. NAB (local stations) just steer clear of the issue and avoid the whole flag mess entirely. The broadcasters seem to have let this issue die and focus on other things.
  2. Bucsfanp7

    Bucsfanp7 New Member

    Jun 3, 2011
    I agree with most of your comment. I have Bright House cable. Digital in the Living room and Standard cable in the bedroom. I only need a cable card to receive the digital channels in the living room (Tivo HD). My bedroom Tivo (also HD) records the standard channels (2-99) just fine. Also 2 shows at the same time. It may just depend on the local cable service signal transmission. Digital, standard, switched, etc.

    Just my 2 cents...
  3. mattack

    mattack Well-Known Member

    Apr 9, 2001
    In other words, you mean the *analog* channels. That matters to some people.. doesn't to me.. (In fact, if I could record analog even with cable cards in, I probably would for a decent proportion of my shows -- just for smaller sizes.)
  4. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

    Nov 12, 2004
    They really need to add multi room tuning and integrated NPL to multi room streaming. Without those two features then they are still going to be way behind the other whole home solutions.
  5. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

    Jan 2, 2004
    and to further clarify -- this happens regionally as well. Comcast up North might set the CCI byte while Comcast in TX might not. (I think that is how comcast is but just from memory, could be wrong)
  6. davezatz

    davezatz Funkadelic

    Apr 18, 2002
    Fairfax, VA
    Yeah, the cable companies vary franchise to franchise. I suspect it's sloppiness as often as it is varying regional policies. Also, many franchises were acquired from other providers. Another example, Comcast in the Pacific Northwest has allowed CableCARD self installs for eons, while most of the rest of Comcast's footprint has required a truck roll.

    I'm sure it's been discussed, perhaps it's even on the roadmap. But collaborative scheduling is probably a long ways off. A unified NPL seems like a more reasonable short term solution, but TiVo development is rather slow these days so who knows.
  7. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

    May 10, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    My reading of the charter announcement earlier this year indicates a unified NPL is coming soon.

  8. exegesis48

    exegesis48 Member

    Jan 13, 2007
    What do you think is the reason behind the slowdown? It's almost as if the developers behind the original TiVo software have moved on and the new people are just trying to work around it as best they can (not very well).

    Also Dave, can you now comment as to whether everything TiVo showed you behind the scenes has been released into the wild, or is there still more to come?
  9. davezatz

    davezatz Funkadelic

    Apr 18, 2002
    Fairfax, VA
    Other than pioneering the DVR and TiVoToGo, I'd say they've otherwise been slow and conservative. Some of that probably has to do with the sad state of their competition for so many years. The situation is different now and TiVo seems to be prioritizing their MSO partners/customers. I'd say the more complete Virgin Media TiVo HDUI, versus our Premiere's, is indicative.

    We had some real good discussion at CES under a NDA - some product oriented but also general strategy, current thinking. Some things have come to pass, while others haven't. By the same token, nothing we discussed has been off schedule to my knowledge and plans at any given moment are always subject to change. But given our agreement, I'm limited in what I can reveal and must wait for leaks or announcements to spring what I may have already known. ;)
  10. rdodolak

    rdodolak Member

    Dec 17, 2008
    More complete HDUI ... :eek: Maybe someday we'll reap the benefits from the work they're doing for Virgin Media.
  11. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    Hopefully after RCN finishes beta testing it, then maybe TiVo can release it to other boxes.
  12. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Well-Known Member

    Aug 25, 2001
    Yeah they have new HD channel banners and a HD Guide. I also believe they have parental controls which aren't currently available on the Premiere in HD.

    I would love to sit down one day with TiVo higher ups and employees even under NDA and just pick their brains as far as what they are thinking and their general road map. Dave need an intern for the next CES/TiVo meeting? ;)
  13. nrc

    nrc Cracker Soul

    Nov 17, 1999
    Living in a...
    But no TiVo style guide - at least the last I'd seen from the Virgin forum. I sure hope that TiVo's focus on pleasing MSOs doesn't mean that the TiVo style guide gets dropped completely. :(
  14. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

    Nov 12, 2004
    Thanks for the response. Why do you think collaborative scheduling is a long way off? It seems that it's a logical step since they don't have more than 2 tuners in the Premiere. Is there some sort of license than they need to acquire from another company to do this? Isn't this something that ReplayTV could do several years ago? Maybe Tivo would have to license the technology from Directv. I wonder if that's why we never can seem to get a whole home solution from Tivo. Your thoughts?
  15. Sapphire

    Sapphire Xtal substance

    Sep 9, 2002
    Got it. I heard that TiVo would be introducing streaming MRV sometime. Trust me, it's a game changer and you'll be wondering how you ever got along without it.
  16. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Well-Known Member

    Aug 25, 2001
    For me it will really depend on how responsive the streaming is. Everything is copy freely for me so unless it is identical in playback and trick play response I will probably stick to transfers.
  17. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2006
    Copying works pretty well now, especially now that remote delete is available Premiere/Premiere. What could make streaming better is if TiVo allows streaming of a still recording program. Right now you have to wait until a program has finished recording before you can MRV it. For long sports programs especially that can be 3.5+ hours long that is a long wait. Hopefully if streaming is implemented properly that should no longer be a restriction. In any case, hopefully both options (copying and streaming) will still be available so that current MRV copy functionality is still there if you want it.
  18. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Well-Known Member

    Aug 25, 2001
    I guess since I am always watching old shows, I have never found a need to transfer a show while it is recording. I can see how some might though.

    Personally I am more excited about the potential for a universal My Shows list.

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