MRV now streams?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by aadam101, Jun 14, 2011.

  1. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    Did I miss the announcement? I just went to transfer a show from one Tivo box to another and it STREAMS. There no longer seems to be an option to transfer (copy).

    Has anyone experienced this? I did a search and found nothing.

    I know many of you have wanted this for a long time but this is quite a disappointment for me. One of my Tivo's is far away from the router and gets a weak signal. I was not able to watch the show. It kept breaking up. I will now need to reconfigure my wireless setup.
     
  2. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Well-Known Member

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    What does the menu look like and say?

    I just checked on mine and it still says Transfer this recording.

    This is on Premiere to Premiere and on Premiere to HD.
     
  3. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Well-Known Mumbler

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    aadam101, are you sure that the show in question is one that you otherwise would've been able to transfer? The big advantage of streaming should be that it allows watching shows that would be prohibited for transfer by the CCI flag. So I'd expect some shows to only be streamable, and others to be both streamable and transferable.

    I only have one Premiere, so I don't expect to see this anytime soon. Fortunately I'm on Fios, where everything is CCI = 0x00. :)
     
  4. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    The show is Nurse Jackie. The menu hasn't changed. When I transfer it, the show starts playing and the entire buffer is already full and the video is definitely streaming. I'm able to FF to any point immediately. It stutters and is unwatchale for me. :(
     
  5. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    I just went back and tried to stream again and it didn't work. Everything is now transferring as it always had. I have no explanation.
     
  6. matt@thehickmans

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    Perhaps you were accidentally added to a testing program, then removed?
     
  7. TerpBE

    TerpBE Go Terps!

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    What model of Tivo were you transferring to/from?
     
  8. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    Two Premieres. Maybe it was some sort of test. I would think that would require an update but who the hell knows with Tivo these days. It's not like they communicate anything. I can't believe this only happened to me. It was definitely streaming. I've had a Tivo for 11 years. This was something I have never seen before.
     
  9. Fofer

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    Yes, it has been widely covered that TiVo is testing out streaming to/from Premieres and this will be useful for shows whose CCI byte don't allow for MRV transferring.

    http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2011-03/whats-next-for-tivo-hulu-streaming-extenders/

    How you got a fleeing glimpse of this, I dunno.

    And this streaming capability will be most evident in the new Premiere Q and (especially) the Preview "extender" boxes we heard about this week.

    As far as I know this new capability will not REPLACE transferring. As well it should not, for obvious reasons. With TiVo these days, as you say though, who knows.

    Keep a digital camera handy so the next time you see this UI, you can post about it here.
     
  10. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    Just wanted to give this a bump for those of you who don't read the Premiere forum.

    I have been able to get streaming to work. When you are at the screen that says "Transfer this recording" don't press select. Press the PLAY button and the video will stream.

    Please some else confirm this so I know I am not crazy!
     
  11. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Well-Known Member

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    I am testing now and it appears to be working lol.

    I made sure the program was not available on my local TiVo in case it was somehow defaulting to that. I hit play and was able to play as if I was watching live. I need to double check and see what is happening at the same time on the other TiVo.

    I wonder if this is in error lol. Good Catch though.

    Also verified it works on copy once content since I had a show I had transferred to the TiVo that had the red slash and didn't give me the option to transfer. Also I get the message Multiroom Viewing is not available if I try to play back a show this way from my TiVo HD on my Premiere.
     
  12. nrc

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    I'm guessing it's an oversight. They probably have streaming in this version of the OS and are waiting on an HDUI update to enable it.
     
  13. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Well-Known Member

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    I would agree but I thought it would be the same way with remote deletion but they ended up just updating the SD page with delete. I could see them doing the same here.

    Of course someone may have forgotten to throw the switch to turn it off.

    One other possible solution is they don't announce it so people can test it without complaining it doesn't work since technically it is a hidden option.
     
  14. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    lol. I wouldn't be surprised if that there was their half baked plan.

    I feel a lot better now. I really thought I was going crazy since I couldn't make it happen a second time.

    Thanks to Darock159- reading your post made me realize what I was doing wrong.
     
  15. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Well-Known Member

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    Here it works flawlessly and as if you were on the actual TiVo which is very impressive. I figured there might be some streaming hiccups, but I haven't tried it during heavy network traffic or when someone is playing back a recording on the TiVo I am streaming from.
     
  16. rahnbo

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    Well, for about 16 minutes I was incredibly impressed. I was streaming a program that was CCI restricted and it was playing just like it had been transferred even when skipping the commercials. At 16 minutes in to the program the image on the screen froze. The host Premiere was fine as was the network. Went back to the Premiere I was streaming to and that image was still there. Went to play a program that was recorded on the Premiere with the frozen image and instead of playing that program it brought me back to the frozen streaming image. From that point on the Premiere was completely frozen. It wouldn't respond to any input although the amber indicator did light up indicating it was getting the remote control input (just like the SDUI remote freeze problem). Tried the HDUI reset code, waited another 15 minutes and finally rebooted it.
     
  17. Fofer

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    What were you doing wrong? Darock159 hasn't posted in this thread.
     
  18. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    I wasn't hitting the PLAY button. The first time I did it was a complete accident. I didn't really know what I did.
     
  19. rahnbo

    rahnbo Well-Known Member

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    In fairness and for the time being I'm not exactly going to blame Tivo for this. I noticed after the reboot that many channels were signal unavailable. It's normal for that to happen until all the mappings are done but not more than 30 minutes. After a long hold on the phone with Brighthouse they told me they're doing system maintenance until 6am. Thus, the streaming problem/freeze may have nothing to do with Tivo although it probably caused it to freeze up which I would think Tivo could handle but apparently not. Will try again when BH gets their stuff working again. It was an awesome 16 minutes of streaming though!
     
  20. lafos

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    Thanks for finding this. As a sufferer in the TWC "protect everything we can" zone, this feature alone makes my four-Premiere investment worthwhile.

    I did notice that it does not continue streaming in the small video window, but that's fine with me.

    I tried to stream from my S3. When I pressed play, I got the please wait message, then an error screen "Can't connect to DVR". It says Multi-Room Viewing is not available due to network problem. I suspect the S3 doesn't have the code for streaming. It was worth a try.
     

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