MRV is a Must Have!!!

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by larrs, Sep 19, 2006.

  1. MediaLivingRoom

    MediaLivingRoom New Member

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    S3 as it is, is something they could have delivered a year ago. Sony had introduced a CableCard DVR on Dec 2004. Although it's not a TiVo, but they delivered it.
     
  2. TiVoPhish

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    Stormspace, I agree with you.

    I was once a fanatic about TiVo... was the first on the block to have it and got many of my family members and friends hooked on it by toting it's benefits. But I abandoned ship a while back because I got tired of hearing "promises" that the HD version was coming. I've had an HDTV since 2001 and only this year started enjoying it's benefits because I finally got fed up with waiting.

    A few months back when people here were telling me I'd hate the SA8300HD they were arguing the advantages of what the "soon to come out" S3 would offer, of which that list included MRV and TTG. Of course, I wouldn't say the 8300 is as good as TiVo -- the lack of search ability and it's inability to be intuitive about recording repeats are an annoyance -- but it's GOOD ENOUGH. It records all my programs, it's dual tuner, and it records HD. I've already said in another thread, it would also take me almost 6 years of payments to reach the price of the new S3 + service. At this point, there's just not enough of an advantage to warrant the big price tag.

    There's also rumors and buzz about new services and new DVR interfaces so I'm waiting. I know SciAtl already makes an 8300hd with multiroom capability with DVD recorder -- but alas, not available in my area yet. Rumors about "Navigator" software are around, which is very TiVo-like and resolves some of the missing features (like a good search). In the meantime, I'm waiting. Will see what happens with FiOS in my area, will see what Apple offers with it's iTV, and will watch TiVo and other DVRs on or coming to the market.

    Sorry TiVo. Maybe it wasn't completely your fault, but lack of HD support drove me away initially, and now price, hassle and lack of features is keeping me away. :(
     
  3. classicX

    classicX Don't scream.

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    Not that I have any reason to believe that Pony is withholding information, but really, do you trust everything every Tivo employee says on its face?

    If there really were a rush to market, do you think TivoPony would post about that? Or even know? Where I come from, marketing bends truth to their will, not the other way around.
     
  4. HDTiVo

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    Kind of ironic that the VIPs get to keep the old TiVo running free a year but there's no MRV.
    :eek:
     
  5. Stormspace

    Stormspace Electrocuted by TiVo

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    I just committed to not getting an S3 for the next year as I spent the money I would have used on a reasonably priced S3 on a GPS navigation system. :) And the Cheap BFC will be pleased to know I didn't pay full price. :)
     
  6. HDTiVo

    HDTiVo Not so Senior Member

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    It doesn't really read like it was turned down already. Corporate babble is very fuzzy and it takes a keen eye and alot of thinking between the lines to understand the meaning - or usually the numerous possible meanings.

    The OP mentioned downrez. LSI makes ships that do this which are also useful for DVD recording, but TiVo is a Broadcom shop. :(
     
  7. pkscout

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    MRV isn't a MUST HAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for me. One TiVo, one TV, one room.
     
  8. Stormspace

    Stormspace Electrocuted by TiVo

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    Congratulations! However you'll never know the bliss of a multi tivo house.
     
  9. HDTiVo

    HDTiVo Not so Senior Member

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    TiVo Series 3 - the Official DVR of High End Studio Apartments and Dorm Rooms. :rolleyes:
     
  10. bicker

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    LOL. Hopefully, someday, they'll make a HD DVR for regular people.
     
  11. HDTiVo

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    Why? You can rent those from the Cable Company.
     
  12. pkscout

    pkscout Well-Known Member

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    :rolleyes: back at ya.

    1900 square foot four bedroom 2 bath house owned by someone who hasn't seen a studio apartment or dorm room in 15 years. My wife and I have one TV. We watch TV in the family room. That's it. We sleep in the bedroom, work in the study, etc.

    Not everyone with a house needs 22 TiVos. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
  13. classicX

    classicX Don't scream.

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    Agreed. 2 is enough for me. But it would be nice to start watching something in the family room, and finish the last few minutes in the bedroom before going to sleep or while ironing, etc.

    Besides, sometime a few shows that I like are playing all at the same time - 4 different shows. In that case, I have to choose where I'm most likely to watch one show versus another, and once the show airs, I'm committed to watching it in that room. I normally choose Family Room shows where family might be over and want to watch it. Things that only my wife and I watch go in the bedroom.

    I don't have kids, but when I do, I will JUST SAY NO to televisions in their bedrooms. Not until they are old enough to not care anymore. I never had a TV in my own room until I was a teenager and look at how I blossomed. :rolleyes:
     
  14. patmiller

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    I can understand having to duke it out with the CableCard people about
    not allowing MRV for HD content (or maybe any content).

    It would be a *huge* improvement if I could transfer content IN! We have
    a "main" tivo and an aux tivo that mostly handles conflicts. We transfer
    down from the aux tivo when we need it.

    With two tuners, the aux will see a lot less overflow, but it would be nice
    to get some kind of MRV going.
     
  15. gwsat

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    I would not need a second S3, either. Although I have a second HDTV and a second SA 8300HD DVR in my kitchen-breakfast room, they don’t get used ten percent of the time. My big HDTV and 8300HD in my big room get most of the play. Thus, I probably would not use MRV even if it were available.

    One of the reasons I am seriously considering ordering an S3 soon is the primitive SA software on the 8300HD. It is truly awful. There is no way to do a global search of the names of upcoming programs by either name or type. Worse, if you want to come back to a two hour movie you left in the middle of to watch something else you had recorded, the only way to return to where you left off is to fast forward to it from the beginning or end of the program. There is no such thing as a 15 minute or 30 minute skip ahead or back.

    These weaknesses have been particularly frustrating to me because I used an S1 from 2000 to 2004 when Cox finally made an HD DVR available. I have simply lived with the horrible SA software for well over two years but my patience is running out – although you can’t beat the price.

    I would consider waiting until Cox makes TiVo software available on its own boxes but the word seems to be that TiVo has barely started software development for SA boxes so there is no telling when it will finally actually become available. Sigh, there is no free lunch, there are no easy answers.
     
  16. Oknarf

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    MRV is a great feature, and once you've had it, it's tough to do without. When I switch from D* to comcast I will need at least 3 Series 3 Tivos. I can wait until MRV arrives. Hopefully it won't be too long.

    I do understand that this is all the fault of the cable co's and cable labs certification process which is more of an anti Tivo thing on their part.
     
  17. AbMagFab

    AbMagFab What happened, TiVo?

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    A singificant benefit of the S3 is recording SD digital content, much like recording the SD digital content from DirecTV - no analog recompression.

    With MRV, even if just for SD content, I could have S2 clients around my house, and use the S3 as a "server". That's what I really want MRV for.

    In the meantime, I'm thrilled with my S3, and am slowly weaning myself off DirecTV. Whether I go Comcast, or wait for FiOS TV is all about when MRV comes out, and if I can strike a good deal with Comcast.

    Also, does anyone know if MRV on the S2's requires a Tivo subscription? If all I want is basically a Tivo client, no recording (except from MRV), do I pay a monthly fee to Tivo?
     
  18. TomJHansen

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    Count me as one who can live without TTG or TTCB, but not MRV. I have 4 Tivo's spread all over the house - one devoted to each network for all the show conflicts. A S3 that can't at least pull shows from the other four is a deal breaker. Until MRV is at least one way for SD shows into the S3 (which is basically an Xbox 360 media extender), I can't put it on my main TV and I have to keep the S2 there. So I'll have to wait.
     
  19. TomJHansen

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    Yes, all S2's require a subscription. They are boat anchors without one. Even just for MRV.
     
  20. HDTiVo

    HDTiVo Not so Senior Member

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    I actually refuse to think about an answer for myself because by the time I might buy the S3 it will all have changed somehow.
     

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