Mr. Robot S04E07 “407 Proxy Authentiation Required” 11/17/2019

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  1. boywaja

    boywaja Well-Known Member

    Sep 30, 2001


    what an episode that was.
    feel like I need to watch that again. and then watch the entire series again.

    sometimes I dont like it when shows get a bit too fancy, as if they're writing for the film school crowd instead of us. but this season has been crazy good.
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  2. GoPackGo

    GoPackGo Well-Known Member

    Dec 28, 2012
    I’m struggling with the ramifications here. Does this mean we’re not going to see Mr. Robot anymore?
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  3. Cainebj

    Cainebj Well-Known Member

    Nov 10, 2006
    New York
    I have felt that with every episode this season.
    The acting just keeps getting better - this episode reminded me how good Christian Slater can be - and I have always loved Gloria Reuben going back to ER - but she was great in this episode.

    The meth head guy? I legit have no memory of him and whatever went down between him and Elliott. I need a recap.
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  4. mattyro7878

    mattyro7878 Well-Known Member

    Nov 27, 2014
    Southern CT
    I think this season has been great. I was hoping what happened was a ploy by Elliot or Mr Robot but society would not accept sexual assault as a plot twist. Will we see My Robot? I honestly have no idea. That's one of the best things about this show...I just don't know.
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  5. mlsnyc

    mlsnyc Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Dec 2, 2009


    I’m sure we’ll still see Mr Robot and I’m dying to find out how that dynamic goes from here. What a bombshell.
  6. Dawghows

    Dawghows Liberal Elitist

    May 17, 2001
    Malek is out-of-this -world good.
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  7. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

    Mar 10, 2003
    New Jersey
    I'm not all that happy that they went the "sexually abused" route (if that's actually true and not a ruse to distract the kidnapper). It's just not creative enough for this writer. But the way this was "announced" was great and had me on the edge of my seat.
  8. markb

    markb Well-Known Member

    Jul 24, 2002
    San Diego
    I feel like that revelation has got to affect the story in some way going forward, or this episode was just a waste, plot-wise. It would still be a good episode, if considered by itself, but the when considering the overall story, why bring back Vera at all? I suspect it will have ramifications. I guess we'll see.

    BTW, why is it that Vera had a much easier time finding Eliot than Whiterose is having? Whiterose is much more sophisticated than Vera!
  9. series5orpremier

    series5orpremier Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2013
    Act numbers, very classy. It was like an old film noir movie complete with thunder and rain (Key Largo?), although an old movie likely wouldn't have gone with that exact subject matter.. The term 'Emmy-grab' comes to mind.
  10. markb

    markb Well-Known Member

    Jul 24, 2002
    San Diego
    Also the music! Very dramatic. One part of the score reminded me of Hitchcock.
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  11. OhFiddle

    OhFiddle Active Member

    Dec 10, 2006
    Chicago Burbs
    I didn't enjoy this particular episode much. Like many, I had no memory of the Vera character at all until they brought him back this season. His long-winded story telling tended to make me zone out. So it's disappointing to have an episode where he's the dominant character with the most lines. I found myself looking at the clock, although that was partially due to the lack of commercials I imagine. I think they probably felt the need to delve into Elliot's multiple personalities a bit before the series ended, and it seems like early childhood sexual abuse is often the cause... so that aspect wasn't surprising.

    I wonder how much altering of their season-wide plot or storyboarding they had to do to get the episode themes to fit the 400 error code episode titles. I didn't even realize that the one episode had no dialogue beyond the first couple of lines until I read it here, so that one was well done with the title theme.
  12. Cainebj

    Cainebj Well-Known Member

    Nov 10, 2006
    New York
    Can anyone remind us (me) about Vera and what happened between him and Elliott?
  13. mlsnyc

    mlsnyc Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Dec 2, 2009
    Vera was from the first season. He was the drug dealing boyfriend of Elliot's neighbor who eventually became his girlfriend that season (she was played by the woman who created and stars in Showtime's SMILF). It's been a while so I can't remember the details, but Elliot crossed Vera and got him jailed, so Vera had his men kill the girlfriend to send a message to Elliot. But not before forcing Elliot to break him out of jail.
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  14. Cainebj

    Cainebj Well-Known Member

    Nov 10, 2006
    New York
    Thanks. I really do need to re-watch the series LOL
  15. markb

    markb Well-Known Member

    Jul 24, 2002
    San Diego
    The Mr. Robot wiki has a good summary of Vera's plot line for Season 1:

    Fernando Vera

    Basically, Elliot gets Vera sent to prison to protect Shayla. Vera figures out it was Elliot, and has his gang kidnap Shayla to force Elliot to break Vera out of prison, which he does. Only after Vera is out of prison is it revealed that Shayla was dead all along.
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  16. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

    Oct 17, 2000
    I thought it was a great episode, except for Vera, who is far and away the least interesting character in this show. And since he was around so much, a lot of the great episode...wasn't great.

    I wish they could have found another vehicle to get this story out. Because Vera really made a great episode not great.
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  17. Craigbob

    Craigbob Well-Known Member

    Dec 1, 2006
    San Antonio
    This was a mixed bag for me. On the one hand they could've had the same session without Vera being involved thereby making him and the entire season's storyline with him superfluous.

    On the other hand the Rami's and Slater's and Ruben's acting was amazing. The three of them should be up for Emmys for this episode.

    On the gripping hand, overall this was an intense and amazing hour of TV.
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  18. vman41

    vman41 Omega Consumer

    Jun 18, 2002
    Did they need the title cards for the acts because they didn't have any commercials?
  19. getbak

    getbak Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2004
    Calgary, AB
    It aired with commercials in Canada and they took the breaks at the Act breaks, so that might be one reason they broke it up like that.
  20. secondclaw

    secondclaw Member

    Oct 3, 2004
    Or to signal that the whole psych session was just an act ...
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