MOCA filter and FIOS

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  1. Feb 9, 2016 #1 of 10
    Rtteachr

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    We are expecting the TV Bolt to arrive this week and plan on using it with a Mini in another room. Based on the advice of an TIVO tech we ordered the MOCA filter. However, after reading a few posts in this forum I am wondering if I need it with FIOS? If I do I'm not even sure where to install it?

    Is there a way to test if it is even needed after the TiVo is all set up?

    Thanks for any help!
     
  2. Feb 9, 2016 #2 of 10
    dianebrat

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    Technically there is no need on FiOS since the RJ45 doesn't go back into the local loop. it just goes into the ONT.
     
  3. Feb 9, 2016 #3 of 10
    Rtteachr

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    Thanks! Is there a way to test the connection to see if a filter is needed?

    Also, what is ONT? I don't know all the technical aspects of the FIOS setup.


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  4. Feb 9, 2016 #4 of 10
    PSU_Sudzi

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    You don't need to test, it ends at the ONT.

    http://www.dslreports.com/faq/12565
     
  5. Feb 9, 2016 #5 of 10
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    ONT = Optical Network Terminal
    The fiber terminates outside your house in the ONT.
    The ONT feeds your televisions via COAX cable (an RJ45 jack inside the ONT).
    The MOCA network is created by the router that verizon provides
    which is either fed by (1) the COAX or (2) a separate CAT5e/CAT6 cable from the ONT.
    Thus the MOCA signal does not ever leave your installation, it terminates at the ONT
    so you do not need a filter.
     
  6. Rtteachr

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    Thanks for clearing that up. I understand it a lot better now and will be sending the filter back to TIVO.


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    I spoke to two different TiVo support people yesterday telling me they still recommend the filter for FIOS. When I asked how would I know if I need it one said the TiVo would be slow. Not sure what slow is since I have nothing to compare it too. Also not sure if they really think FIOS needs the filter or if the are suppose to recommend it. We will see. Based on everything I've been seeing in the forums and online it is not needed and going without it to start.


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  9. dianebrat

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    From a strict technical standpoint in some rare FiOS installations you can benefit from one, but it's rare, just don't leave any open splitter ports or unterminated cables and you should be fine.

    Trust me TCF is a far more accurate source of information that Tivo CSRs.
     
  10. Rtteachr

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    Thanks. I appreciate the help.


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