MoCA/Coaxial light is off...

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by lee moton, Jul 12, 2019.

  1. lee moton

    lee moton New Member

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    I tried this setup and it worked. I chose auto for the channel frequency on the Roamio Pro, hopefully, that will not cause me any problems later. I have been working with TiVo and Verizon for almost 2 years and they could not help. I work with you less than an hour and I am up and running in all 6 rooms. Thank you so much for your assistance.
     
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  2. lee moton

    lee moton New Member

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    Since I am connected via Ethernet with my Roamio Pro as a MoCA bridge, do I still need the coaxial connection in the back of my Roamio Pro or can I remove it?
     
  3. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Heh, only if you want the Pro’s MoCA/Ethernet bridge to keep bridging (between the Ethernet and coax/MoCA segments), or you remain fond of the TiVo DVR’s ability to tune and record cable TV programming. ;)

    Yes, the Roamio Pro, functioning as your MoCA/Ethernet bridge, requires both the Ethernet and coax connections, between which it is bridging network traffic, and the DVR will always require the coax connection for TV signal reception. (To be fair, lacking MoCA *bridging* or TV tuning functionality, a Mini needs only one or the other connection, coax or Ethernet, to supply it with its necessary network connection.)

    That said, I’d think the longer term goal would be to solve the puzzle Re: the G1100 and have it resume responsibilities for MoCA bridging. (I prefer not having my DVR handle the bridging, owing to Internet connection outages for Minis whenever the DVR reboots. YMMV.)
     
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  4. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    I’d recommend checking your MoCA stats to determine what channel was settled on, and to compare the before and after PHY rates and power levels.

    And you can still try manually setting the MoCA channel higher on the Pro if you experience further disconnects.
     
  5. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Oh, right, where is your “PoE” MoCA filter currently located? (I’d previously suggested moving it, so I’m not sure where it’s situated, at present.)

    So some unknowns remain...
    • How are the coax runs actually connected, and where should the “PoE” MoCA filter be installed? (On the input of the 8-way splitter is great if you know that all MoCA nodes are downstream of the 8-way. Just remember the filter location if/when you try adding a new node in another room, should that location connect upstream of the 8-way.)
    • On what channel (at what frequency) is the MoCA network now operating?
    • What are the MoCA stats currently reporting? How does this compare to previous?
    • What’s up with the G1100? Has its MoCA gone bad? Or is there noise on the coax at lower MoCA frequencies, and the G1100 can truly only operate at the lowest MoCA channel/frequency, thus the disruptions?
    NOTE: If you don’t replace the G1100, a standalone MoCA adapter can be had for as little as $17 via Amazon (link), to relieve the DVR of the bridging responsibility. On the other hand, if you stick with the DVR for MoCA bridging, the splitter in the Master Bedroom could be removed, since the coax run to the G1100 is no longer needed.
     
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  6. lee moton

    lee moton New Member

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    The PoE filter is located on the main feed coming into the basement. I looked at each feed on the 8-way splitter and they are marked with each one of my rooms in the house, thus I think I am okay with the PoE filter. I look at three minis and they are operating on channel 15. The TX PHY rates range from 275 to 280 and the RX PHY rates range from 274 to 278. I don't know what the stats on the MoCAs were initially so I cannot compare to what the MoCA stats are now. I am not sure if the MoCA on the G1100 has gone bad or not. It did not work properly but now with the Pro bridge, everything works and I am happy with the present results. Also, I removed the splitter in the Master Bedroom. I think I will go with the current setup.
     
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  7. lee moton

    lee moton New Member

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    Please provide instructions/directions if I decided to use the standalone MoCA adapter so I can relieve my DVR of the bridging responsibility. Thanks!
     
  8. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Most understandable after 2 years of instability.

    Pretty straightforward, standard setup. You’d...
    1) disable MoCA on the DVR, leaving the DVR with an Ethernet connection (for now);
    2) restore the removed splitter and coax line that previously connected the G1100;
    3) connect the MoCA adapter’s “In”/“Network” port to this coax line;
    4) connect the MoCA adapter’s Ethernet port to a LAN port on the G1100 (restoring the MoCA[coax]/Ethernet bridge);
    5) power-up the MoCA adapter;
    6) decide on an Ethernet or MoCA connection for the DVR; remove the Ethernet cable if the DVR will be configured for a MoCA network connection.
    7) reboot or reconfigure Minis, and verify MoCA connectivity;
     
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  9. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Stats look good, though the TX power level would provide additional insight ... with a range between -30 and +3 dBm, and the closer to -30 the better.
     
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    It is great to see this forum helping one another. The knowledge,time and patience can be had no where else. It humbles me at how much I don't know!!
     
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  11. lee moton

    lee moton New Member

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    TX power is-14 to -16 on each mini. TX power estimate range from -14 to -16. RX power estimate range from -45 to -47.
     
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  12. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Looks good. Hope the stability continues.
     
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  13. lee moton

    lee moton New Member

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    Yes, I agree. Krkaufman was unreal in his support and as a result, I am up and running after two frustrating years with TiVo and Verizon.
     
  14. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Kind words, but methinks TiVo’s and Verizon’s efforts o_O lend to a most favorable comparison!
     
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  15. serial_port_me05

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    I lost Moca lights on the router and my Minis stopped working.

    I spent a time of time trying to diagnose. Verizon came...and...

    It was the router. They replaced it and everything went back to normal.

    Fingers crossed.
     
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