Missing the first few minutes of recordings

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by kmp14, Oct 5, 2005.

  1. Oct 6, 2005 #21 of 105
    Eben

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    I'm not saying I have an answer, but since these units can see two different sats at the same time, is it possible the two sats could have different times? Wouldn't that confuse the hell out of the receiver?
     
  2. Oct 7, 2005 #22 of 105
    Gerryex

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    Hi jportnoy,

    Yes, I agree with you! Now how do we go about finding out how to get it fixed?

    Gerry
     
  3. Oct 12, 2005 #23 of 105
    grins

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    I'm also having the two-minute hole at the beginning of the recording problem. Are all of your hdtivos (those of you experiencing the hole at the beginning) stock, or modded? I have two disks in mine, and I've done some minor hacking (enabling telnet and ftp server is all), so I'm running a hacked version of 3.1.5, I think release e.

    any more info?
     
  4. Oct 12, 2005 #24 of 105
    Gerryex

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    Hi grins,

    Mine is a plane jane, completely untouched and un-modded unit straight from the box and the case has never been opened!!

    Gerry
     
  5. Oct 12, 2005 #25 of 105
    txfeinbergs

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    The delay has nothing to do with different times on the satellites. It is directly due to the fact that the TIVO is sllloooowww and underpowered. If you already have one show recording (especially a high definition show), it can sometimes take up to 2 minutes for the TIVO to start recording on the second tuner.
     
  6. Oct 12, 2005 #26 of 105
    AbMagFab

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    Both of mine are modded. However the only one showing problems is running 'e'. The other one, 'f', doesn't have any problems. And they are mostly recording the same things.

    Maybe I'll upgrade my older one to 'f' and see what happens...
     
  7. Oct 13, 2005 #27 of 105
    grins

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    Thanks, AgMagFab! Would you let us know? I'd love to think the fix is that simple.

    And if it works, will you tell me how to upgrade a modded TiVo? ;-)

    edited to add:

    Wait, un-modded hdtivos are running 3.1.5f now, isn't that correct? So the fact that your f version is not experiencing the holes is not because of f, but rather something else, right? otherwise the un-modded hdtivos would not be seeing the problem.
     
  8. Oct 13, 2005 #28 of 105
    Gerryex

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    Hi grins,

    Yes, my un-modded HD Tivo IS running the "f" version of the software, so that version does not seem to fix the problem.


    Hi txfeinbergs,

    This is interesting and it had never occurred to me. One of my BIGGEST complaints is that the HD Tivo is so slow when setting up a recording or even more so when setting up a Season Pass. If this problem is simply that the system is just slow to start the scheduled recording, then there may NOT be any fix if, and until, we get that major new version which has been referred to as 6.2, which is supposed to speed things up considerably. However, there has been very little info coming out of D* as to when it will come out for the HD Tivo, IF EVER!! Remember that the HD Tivos will eventually be swapped out for a new MPEG-4 HD DVR when the new satellites are up and running. So VERY little effort has been going into keeping the HD Tivos' software up to date.


    While the HD Tivo works very well - WHEN IT WORKS - it is very disappointing in that it is so slow, prone to miss the first few minutes of shows, and also freezes up at times. One needs to have confidence in a DVR so that you can be assured that it will do what you ask it to. With the above problems, I'm, unfortunately, starting to loose confidence in mine!!

    Gerry
     
  9. Oct 13, 2005 #29 of 105
    oldskoolboarder

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    My recording of Invasion last nite had this problem. I recorded from ABCW, not OTA.
     
  10. Oct 14, 2005 #30 of 105
    steady teddy

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    I found this thread through a search because I'm having the same problem. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't the only one experiencing this annoyance.

    The recording usually starts one minute late. And from what I have seen so far, it might only be happening when I record off my local OTA antenna, but I'm not sure. I can't recall any satellite programming starting late but it's happened to me quite a bit when I record some of the CBS and ABC shows like CSI, CSI Miami, and Lost.

    And the tuner is already set to that channel before the show's start time. I've had this intermittent problem for the last month or so.
     
  11. Oct 14, 2005 #31 of 105
    steady teddy

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    Why do I bother? :rolleyes: Why??!! :mad:

    I just wasted an hour of my life on the phone with D* tech support to explain this problem. They told me that I could "fix" this problem by changing my record settings to start recording the program one minute earlier. I then asked her how in the world this could be considered a fix since this would cause a recording conflict if I wanted to record two programs one hour earlier. She couldn't understand what I was trying to explain to her. I told her that her fix was not a fix at all.

    Then she suggested that I could change the setting on my Tivo clock to one minute earlier. :eek: I told her that there was no problem with the clock setting on my Tivo and that if I changed the time, it would cause all programs to record shows one minute early and stop recording one minute early. She still could not understand this conundrum.

    Does D* think their customers are complete idiots? Maybe I am because after talking with tech support today, I feel a lot dumber.

    Does anyone know if there is a phone # strictly for D* Tivo tech support?
     
  12. Oct 18, 2005 #32 of 105
    notmestl

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    Jumping in here also because I just started having this issue on my HDTivo as well. It began happening as recently as two weeks ago.
    I have noticed it only occurs when recording two HD shows starting at the same time. It does not occur when recording only one HD show or one HD and one SD show starting at the same time. It is now all the time. So, no it is not Sat time or Tivo time or any of that other some such. It is more likely due to the slowness of the Tivo itself, but why it has just now begun happening? donno.....

    On a side note, my HDMI failed at about the same time..... hmmm....
     
  13. Oct 18, 2005 #33 of 105
    steady teddy

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    I'm not using HDMI so that's just a coincidence.

    I suggested to D* that since everyone seemed to be experiencing this at around the same time that perhaps it is a software issue. But it was like talking to a wall.
     
  14. Oct 18, 2005 #34 of 105
    susanandmark

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    We actually observed this last night. My husband was watching football. The TiVo asked to change the channel to record "Medium." We said OK. The channel changed and then, one or two minutes later, the recording started.

    I have to agree with others that attributed this to the TiVo's own slowness (computer processing power). I hadn't thought of it before, but it makes sense. It's not a good thing. But it is logical and, if true, likely unfixable without a processor upgrade.

    Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about that. I'm far from a nuts-and-bolts computer genuis. Perhaps more efficent software would tax the hardware less and eliminate the issue, but I'm not going to hold my breath, as it appears we're unlikely to get any software upgrade/bug fixes in the future, and, if we did, it would likely be more complex code, not a simplified version.
     
  15. Oct 19, 2005 #35 of 105
    rcurrier

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    The only problem with the "processing power" theory is that I've had mine for over a year and the problem just started showing up within the last month or so (actually since the start of the new season). I can state that the problem is not solely related to HD recordings (it happens recording the local news). Both tuners were on HD stations and I was never prompted/warned about the other tuner needing to change channels.

    The paranoid among us at work think this is either the networks doing "something" to discourage PVR use (which is why ER starts at 9:59) or D* messing with our boxes so we'll want to switch to the NDS box.
     
  16. Oct 19, 2005 #36 of 105
    Gerryex

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    I was starting to get this problem along with one random re-boot. Since I didn't have too much left to watch I did a complete Clear and Delete overnight. While its only been a couple of days since that, it now appears to work much faster and I have not had the 1 or 2 minute record delay.

    Since this problem (and the system reset problems) are starting to crop up more often, I'm guessing that many of the units are now a year, or more, old and the disk is probably very fragmented and the system is just running very slow. After the Clear and Delete, while you must enter in all of your SP's they are accepted VERY quickly. Maybe this is just like installing Windows every so often just to get rid of all the detris that accumulates over time.

    Gerry
     
  17. Oct 19, 2005 #37 of 105
    GadgetFreak

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    Count me as another victim of the slow-poke HD Tivo. Mine is only 6 weeks old. I love the HD but miss having folders and acceptable response time. Oh..and having my recordings start on time.
     
  18. Oct 19, 2005 #38 of 105
    Sir_winealot

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    Wow, after only 6 weeks? Do you have a lot of SP's?

    I'm entering my 4th week....and it's still almost as quick as day 1. I know it's just a matter of time, but only 6 weeks...sheesh. :rolleyes:
     
  19. Oct 19, 2005 #39 of 105
    boiler11

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    I've had this problem on a couple shows also. My box is modded and has been for a year. I installed endpadplus about a month ago and configured it to add 1 minute to the beginning and end of each show. Note that I didn't set that up because of this problem, strictly because I always missed the last 30-60 seconds of the Simpsons.

    This is the first time it's happened to me. We're about 2 weeks behind on our TV watching, so I don't know if it has stopped or not.

    I don't think you can blame this on the slow processor. It seems to have happened to a bunch of people at the same time. Logical reasoning points the finger at external causes.

    Sean.
     
  20. Oct 19, 2005 #40 of 105
    txfeinbergs

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    Actually, I am still a firm believer of the processing power as the root cause. The reason it has started happening to a bunch of us all at once (at the start of the new season) is... well, this is the first season that actually has a bunch of decent high def to record in the first place and it is the first season I ever had to try and record two high def shows I actually wanted to watch at the same time.
     

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