Missing the first few minutes of recordings

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by kmp14, Oct 5, 2005.

  1. Oct 5, 2005 #1 of 105

    kmp14 New Member

    Sep 18, 2003


    AHH! It is so frustrating. Has anyone else been missing the first couple of minutes of recordings? I will go to watch a recorded show, hit play, and the first couple of minutes will not be recorded. The time bar also reflects this by the green section not going all the way back to the beginning of the show. For example, the info for a 30 minute show says 30 Minutes, but it only recorded 28.

    Is there a way to correct it?
  2. Oct 5, 2005 #2 of 105
    Tivo Rules

    Tivo Rules Sarcasm Expert

    Sep 21, 2005
    Not after the fact, but you should have an option to tape 2 or 5 minutes (or so) before or after the show when you first schedule it or on a Season Pass.
  3. Oct 5, 2005 #3 of 105

    kmp14 New Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    I schedule it to record the whole show (obviously) but it only records part of it.

    For example, a 30 minute show starts at 7pm, but on my tivo, it starts recording at 7:02pm, and I miss the first 2 minutes of the show. The time bar shows that the show actually was 30 minutes long, but only 28 minutes of the time bar is green, since that is all the tivo recorded. Aghhhh!
  4. Oct 5, 2005 #4 of 105

    bluntedat420 New Member

    Mar 16, 2002
    I recently had an hour-long show recorded that only showed 50 minutes of 'green bar'. When I watched the show (expecting it to give me the 'delete now' screen 10 minutes before the end of the show, like the recent Medium premiere), I got some pixellation about 25 minutes into the show, and then some stuttering, and then the show reappeard just fine, albeit the scene shift was confusing (it seemed like I missed some plot lines). It turned out, I lost 10 minutes of the middle of a show. I've never seen that before!

  5. Oct 5, 2005 #5 of 105

    Jeffner76 New Member

    Sep 23, 2005


    My Tivo has been doing this lately too! Every once in a while, I'll be watching a show and a few minutes before the end, the "delete this recording now" screen pops up. No! I want to watch the rest of my show! Any idea why this is happening? It doesn't seem to be show or network specific - just random.
  6. Oct 5, 2005 #6 of 105

    tbb1226 TiVo Junkie

    Sep 16, 2004
    Royal Oak, MI
    I've been experiencing the exact problem that kmp14 described. The recording is fine, except for the missing first 2-3 minutes.

    It's happened quite frequently lately - mostly on the Letterman show, but other shows also. I have no idea why it happens, but I think it's only on OTA channels.
  7. Oct 5, 2005 #7 of 105

    videojanitor Member

    Dec 21, 2001
    I find this happens quite frequently as well. I THINK, but I am not certain, that it almost always seems to happen at a point where both tuners are in use, and one of them needs to change the channel.

    For instance, on Monday nights, I record CSI: Miami, and Medium at 10pm, followed immediately by Letterman at 11pm (yes, it airs at 11pm here due to a nutty CBS affiliate). I can virtually always count on missing the first two minutes of Letterman, even though I have no "extra" time padded into any of the recordings. It's the same problem as described above -- the TiVo "bar" shows that it started recording at 11:00, but the "green" portion starts two minutes into the show, and that indeed is where the recording starts. :confused:
  8. Oct 5, 2005 #8 of 105

    susanandmark New Member

    Apr 16, 2001
    Oklahoma, USA
    I'm also having the "missing minutes" problem at the beginning of shows, in addition to a few other issues (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=264062), and, at least for me, it does NOT just happen just on OTA channels. I've had the same experience with shows recorded from sat. too.
  9. Oct 5, 2005 #9 of 105

    ChofuHS New Member

    Apr 14, 2004
    It has been happening to me recently for some reason???????
  10. Oct 6, 2005 #10 of 105

    jtseltmann New Member

    May 22, 2005
    AH, I am having the same issue and it bit me last night again. I had an issue with SURFACE on NBC the other night and finally with LOST last night. The show began taping just fine but then the show or green line stops at 9:50pm. Though the show says it taped to 1hr it did not. My wife and I are thinking it is because of a recording conflict at 10pm because we are recording shows back to back and on more than one channel. The time for the show I was recording at 10 actually said 9:59pm - 11pm. The recorder did now show a conflict until it actually tried to start one. At one point i looked at my Now Playing List and had THREE red lights showing recording?!?!?!
    This is driving me nuts! It has to do with the dame tv times showing as recording one minute early! I know none of my Season Passes are set up to record early or late. They all say to record "on time". There seems to be some major timing issues with this one minute thing. Some folks are talking about two minutes but I am only see one minute shifts. I am frustrated that my 999$ piece of sh_t machine is now crapping out and screwing up my TV life. This NEVER happened last year though I did have mysterious reboots twice when recording two HD Programs. The 10 minute time loss and blown recordings has happened at least 2-3 times.

    Anyone have any suggestions???
  11. Oct 6, 2005 #11 of 105
    Kevin L

    Kevin L Active Member

    Jan 10, 2002
    Gulf Cove, FL
    I don't know why the first two minutes are missing, and I haven't seen that on mine. I have seen the missing time from the end. IOW, a one hour show only shows the green bar filling 90% or so of the time bar. This has always been from loss of signal. When I see the green bar not filling up the time bar, I know I'm going to have a crappy recording. Happened to me on the Season Premier of West Wing. There was so much pixelization and stuttering that it was unwatchable. Plus, the green bar only filled about 2/3 of the time bar, meaning I lost at least ten to twelve minutes of the show. :mad:

    One thing I do on shows that MUST record, because they don't rerun (like Survivor and Amazing Race) is to record it on two different HR10s, and if possible, record one using the sat and the other OTA.
  12. Oct 6, 2005 #12 of 105

    tomkludy New Member

    Oct 21, 2002
    What a few of you are describing is the result of signal loss. If your recording has pixelation, skipped minutes, and the green bar doesn't go all the way to the end, check your signal strength. You probably experienced rain fade or some other kind of signal loss.

    What the original poster is experiencing (and myself, and a couple of others as well) is that the HDTiVo simply doesn't tune to the channel at the proper time. It doesn't start recording until a couple of minutes past the proper time.

    I've seen this happen while watching live TV: I can be watching TV expecting the TiVo to switch channels and start recording at 7:00pm, but it doesn't "wake up" and switch over until 7:02pm.

    I am certain this is a software problem. It doesn't happen every time, but it has been happening quite frequently lately.
  13. Oct 6, 2005 #13 of 105

    jtseltmann New Member

    May 22, 2005
    I would say my problem is a signal loss but this has happened at the exact same time on two different nights and two different networks? I find that hard to believe. Also...I tend to watch the recording as it is playing..so i start watching say at 9:20 to know I can watch almost live without commercials. What I notice is that the time on the clock says 9:55pm...and LOST is still playing/recording (supposedly) and I am watching the recording. When i go to forward through some commercials...I see that the green line just stops at 50 minutes. Then I freak out because I know it is still on and the clock says 9:55pm. Then I go to LIVE tv and the LOST show is still on, no signal loss. Then I try to go back and watch my show/recording and it can't display it or find the recording. Then after juggling around and looking at the recorder showing three red dots which is impossible because I dont' have an OTA atenna...it finally pops a conflict error with a show that is scheduled to run from 9:59 to 11pm...and whammo...its all screwy. I deleted the scheduled recording (the show that was in conflict) of a show AFTER it recorded the full show. Now when I went to the "now playing" list the show LOST was able to be found again...and as I watched the 50 minute recording of this show (still lost the last 10 minutes)...the HR10 just rebooted. Now this of course f'd up the next recordings of Invasion etc.

    The problem I am seeing is not a signal loss. I have verified this. I know what I just wrote above seems quite convoluted...because it was quite a cluster F last night when it was happening. The missing last 10 minutes of a show has happened for me now three times. Numb3ers, LOST and Surface have all had conflicts.

    What I am seeing as a common thread is the shows (most all on NCB so far) that have the timing set to record from 9:59 to 11 pm instead of 10. "ER" is one and I think there is one other that I can't remember now...

    I'll keep testing my thoughts but who knows...
  14. Oct 6, 2005 #14 of 105

    duanej New Member

    Oct 28, 2004
    Seattle, WA
    This has discussed to death on other threads. It's the time on the satellite itself that controls when things start recording, and it looks like the time has drifted a bit on one (or more) of the sats. DTV need to reset the time to fix this.
  15. Oct 6, 2005 #15 of 105

    jtseltmann New Member

    May 22, 2005
    My appologies then for beating this dead horse but then again...that wasn't my main concern. The fact that only a few shows have this problem scared me a bit but truly i was trying to see if it was the culprit concerning my screwed up recordings etc. That was my main issue...trying to identify what caused the lost recordings and time.

    thanks anyway.
  16. Oct 6, 2005 #16 of 105

    AbMagFab What happened, TiVo?

    Feb 5, 2001
    The problem is DirecTV satellite time. The reason it seems random, is the Tivo gets it's time depending on what satellite's it's tuned into right then. So you could even have two Tivo's in the house, and one could be fine while the other missed a couple minutes, because the one missing minutes was tuned into a different sat at the time.

    That being said, I think some of this is due to lag on the HD Tivo as well with changing channels.
  17. Oct 6, 2005 #17 of 105

    jbradway New Member

    Sep 30, 2001
    Sacramento, CA
    Just a wild thought. Since the TIVO takes a few minutes to process changes to season passes and other recording stuff, maybe it takes a few minutes to find the oldest eligible show that it can delete in order to make room for your new recording. Those with full drives might fall victim to the slow decision making time.
  18. Oct 6, 2005 #18 of 105

    jtseltmann New Member

    May 22, 2005
    Thank you for your suggestions...I'll keep trying to clean up and watch carefully!
  19. Oct 6, 2005 #19 of 105

    Gerryex Well-Known Member

    Apr 24, 2004
    Land O...
    Hi ALL,

    I know this has been discussed before and the reason is supposed to have something to do with the clock setting that is coming in from the satellites. But I was watching something live on the HD Tivo, and was just waiting for the tuner to switch to the channel that was supposed to start recording on the hour. I forget the show and the exact time, but the Tivo's time display showed it to be exactly on the hour (which was the CORRECT time as the show was starting) BUT the recording did NOT start. Instead it started at :02, but again the Tivo's time DID show the :02.

    I could understand if there was some problem with the clock coming from the satellite, but then wouldn't the recording start at the Tivo's time of :00 which, because of the satellite clock error, would in reality be :02. Instead the Tivo clock IS showing the correct time of :00 but does NOT start recording until :02!!!

  20. Oct 6, 2005 #20 of 105

    jportnoy New Member

    Aug 7, 2003
    Wynnewood, PA
    Yes, it's not the satellite time. I watched live last night while the HDTivo was supposed to start two shows at 10PM EDT. It sat doing nothing until 10:02 when it started to record. It also did not give me a warning at 9:59 like usual saying it needed to change the channel in order to record. There is a bug that started recently that is causing this. Was there a software update recently?

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