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Mini no need for Ethernet OR Moca!

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Dean Johnson, Mar 2, 2018.

  1. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    What is new information?
     
  2. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    According to its User Manual, you have 3 operation mode options:
    • Access Point
    • Extender
    • Media Bridge
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    And you'd want "Media Bridge" mode.
     
  3. Sptrader

    Sptrader New Member

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    Thanks !
    I'm curious, why would media bridge be better than Access Point ? Is it better for streaming somehow ?
     
  4. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

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    If you enlarge the diagram, notice that an AP is a long wire connected to your router to a device that sends and receives wireless data. The wireless/media bridge mode lets your device think it is wired and the 1650 is a powerful wireless "repeater". An Extender is a wireless device that can receive a weak signal and send out a stronger signal. Luckily, most extenders have Ethernet ports. I use a Netgear EX7000 to supply wireless connection to two Roamio, one Premiere, a Blu-ray, AVR and this computer to access my router on a different floor.

    Funny you mentioned "better for streaming". The wireless for a Roamio is quite slow. While it can supply daily Service Connections it can not be the host for a Mini. But since my Roamio host "thinks" it is wired, there is no problem. There has been speculation that something gets lost when changing the Ethernet inside a TiVo to wireless. All my benchmarks confirm that. A Bolt is faster.
     
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  5. mdavej

    mdavej Well-Known Member

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    Access Point requires the target device to have wifi. Since the Mini has no wifi, Media Bridge mode is the only option that will work.

    EDIT: Looks like Joe posted essentially the same thing.
     
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  6. Sptrader

    Sptrader New Member

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    Thanks for the explanation, I'm computer literate just not a network guy, yet. Yes, I think Joe explained it well too.
    Joe: Thanks for the detailed explanation.
    Steve
     
  7. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Because of your declaration in the original post:
    The issue with the Mini is that it lacks built-in wireless capabilities, so you need to acquire a wireless device that you can hardwire via Ethernet to the Mini, with this new device making the connection to your wireless network on behalf of the grateful Mini.

    Also, as suggested above, expand the posted diagram and note that the endpoint devices in the first two examples (AP, Extender) all have built-in wireless capability.
     
  8. Sptrader

    Sptrader New Member

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    Thanks ! I appreciate the explanation.
     
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  9. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    MN, greater...
    Started off with some sarcasm, but i guess it doesn't read that way. It's been changed.
     
  10. Sptrader

    Sptrader New Member

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    * I received the Dap-1650 and installed it yesterday. My ONLY problem is that it seems to go into sleep mode or energy saving mode, after a period of inactivity. (Maybe 30 min to 1 hour or so - then I have to power down and power up to get it working again. Is there a setting to stop this ? I want it active constantly. Otherwise, it's great.
     
  11. m.s

    m.s Active Member

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    If there's "Mini no need for Ethernet OR Moca!," then unplug the Ethernet cable, don't hook up to the cable connector, then come back and tell us how it works.
     
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  12. fcfc2

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    Hi,
    I never had that happen with my units, always stayed up when connecting to a Dlink Dir-868L. You might want to double check the firmware on your unit, I think the latest one was 103, which mine used. I also used the 5.0GHz band, but I doubt that is the issue. D-Link Technical Support
    The issue may also be something related to the router you are using to connect to it.
    EDIT: Dlink often recommends doing a factory reset before and after you do a firmware upgrade and before configuring the new firmware.
     
  13. Sptrader

    Sptrader New Member

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    I'm using firmware 1.02 , so I may need to update that. I also changed to a fixed IP address and since doing that, I haven't had the problem. I also changed time zones. (It was set to a different continent). I did select 5ghz initially. Thank's for the suggestions. I thought there might be a power saving setting that I overlooked.
     
  14. fcfc2

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    I hope you found your fix. I did a bit of nosing around and found there is also a setting in the "advanced wireless" where you could also try, unchecking the "IGMP" snooping, this has also been known to cause problems with some devices. Good luck.
     
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  15. Sptrader

    Sptrader New Member

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    Thanks again fcfc2, I'll check out IGMP .
     
  16. man cave

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    I've been using a airties 4920 mesh network extender for over a year now. My mini in the other room is hooked to it. Works flawlessly.
     

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